196 @lemmy.blahaj.zone ANGRY_MAPLE @sh.itjust.works 12 mo. ago

Hating on the people who vape still doesn't make smoking healthy rule

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There's the meme of the rich dude who is leering down towards the reader, judgementally.

Text under the image: People who smoke cigarettes judging people who vape

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At the end of the day, the modern hate for nicotine addicts is based in classism, as is most hate for addicts. Look at the demographics at the picture is clear. Ya'll just hate the poor and disenfranchised and look for excuses to paint over it.
- no it's just nasty
  
  Sure, but I'd be willing to bet you express the same disdain for addicts of all stripes, who are predominantly impoverished. Instead of directing your disgust at the power structures and systemic issues that create the situation, you punch down.
- Idk man cigarettes smell fucking awful. Vapes at least don't smell awful and aren't as bad for you.
  
  Then explain the hate for those who try to switch to vaping. It is classism, through and through.
- I think self harm is bad, not matter if you're rich or poor :)
  
  (also smokers make me smell their smoke)
- What a load of shit. I don't hate addicts of any substance, but refusing to tolerate defense or promotion of terrible substances themselves isn't hating addicts. Wanting to ban sale of cigarettes or vapes to new users, terribly unhealthy ways to consume an exceptionally addictive substance, isn't fucking classist. So long as you lobby to fix the terrible conditions that lead people to consume such substances, you can use the law to limit their harm and target those that profit from it.
  
  This sort of argument is overly simplistic and stupid at best, but reeks of bad faith bullshit that promotes the interests of evil corporations while acting like it's woke.
Smokers and vapers are both disgusting.
- Can't say I hate the flavours of vapes as much as I hate cigarette smell
The nonsmoking gods peeking at what those foolish mortals are up to
A lot of people here seem to hate smokers in generall, I assume it's due to their culture, since smoking is pretty normal in my country and europe in generall
- I only hate smokers who smoke in the presence of others :)
  
  (I'm european and I'm aware that includes a very large amount of people)
- I only hate smokers out of jealousy, but it's not real hate. Probably too much story, but here in The Derp South smoking is pretty engrained with the poverty. I started cigars when I was 18 and then cigarettes. I was told at 31 just before my December birthday I had five years to live if I didn't quit smoking ( I know that was likely not accurate, but I was in rough shape). I was at 42% lung capacity and already had PAD and was diagnosed with COPD. I'm 42 and January 1st will be 11 years without a cigarette. I am at 86% lung capacity and am no longer considered to have COPD. I also miss smoking dearly and fucking loved it. Tell cigarettes I said hi and I'm sorry we can't be together.. Lol
At least tobacco is an all natural plant-based alternative to vaping.
Then there's those that view both groups as the same
That’s amusing since the kinds of people who smoke cigs are generally trash.
"My vape is less harmful than your cigarette."

"Wimp. Too good to get cancer?"
Oddly enough, I've heard more cigarette smokers complain about vaping than non-smokers. It might just be where I live, but it's odd imo

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