Mother, daughter killed by Israel army in Gaza church grounds: patriarchate
Mother, daughter killed by Israel army in Gaza church grounds: patriarchate
A Christian mother and daughter were shot dead by an Israeli soldier on the grounds of a Catholic church in Gaza City on Saturday, the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem said.
A Christian mother and daughter were shot dead by an Israeli soldier on the grounds of a Catholic church in Gaza City on Saturday, the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem said.
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I know Hamas is a thing and I don't support it, but it really saddens me to see Israelis do things that were done to them just 80 years ago. There's enough space for all of us on this planet.
See that's the thing, Israelis by and large aren't the Jews that survived the Holocaust, most of those folks stayed in Europe or immigrated to the US and Canada.
Ashkenazi Jews in Israel who trace back to an arrival from that period are mostly the folks that handed the Nazis a fat stack to transfer their monetary assets to the banking infrastructure already established by the Zionists in Israel.
Of the Holocaust Survivor families that ended up in Israel, a third live in abject poverty, because again, these were the folks that couldn't just pay off the Nazis to let them go somewhere else, all of them face language discrimination because Israel banned the official use of historical Jewish languages like Ladino, Yiddish, and Mizrahi, and all of them risk getting slurred at by the non-holocaust-survivor families, specifically calling them Soap which is just one of the most blatantly heinous things I've discovered about how one community gets treated by another.
There's also the Russian Jews who ignore comparisons to the Holocaust and identify more with it being a rightful act of irredentism akin to the war in Ukraine.
I'm not doubting you, but do you have any sources? I'd like to read more.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/israel-abuses-holocaust-survivors
Not an article but this one does have a direct quote on the slur, https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=84135
thanks for the links. can you replace one link with its non-AMPd version? thanks.
you can read why AMP is baad for the web
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The ones in poverty are mostly ones who came later on in the 1990's from former Soviet Union, and usually didn't or couldn't contact authorities or know about what they deserve because of the language barrier - As many of them only speak Russian.
It's incredibly unfortunate, and almost all Israeli Jews see supporting them and helping them as important.Imagine those poor government aid workers who want to help all the Holocaust survivors but just can't figure out who they are because they don't speak Russian! Must be awful for them!
I think the point is simply that there are language barriers that create problems. This is totally believable and is a coordinating issue in any country where there are immigrants who need social services but don't speak the primary language. Not everything has to be down to all Israelis being bad people and not actually giving a fuck.
Nobody said all Israelis are bad. I'm American so I know all about shitty countries having a lot of good people in them.
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But even if they do, they still remain in poverty and are mistreated. It's a symptom of what Israel is... When you drop the rights of some people, you don't stop, you keep dropping the rights of more people.
Here's a good report on it: https://youtu.be/KMIIxCR2utQ?feature=shared
The video answers your first question. I would recommend watching it.
Have you done that? It only interviews Israelis and you can hear it from the mouths of holocaust survivors themselves.
I'm not talking about rising living costs. I'm talking about holocaust survivors picking leftover fruit from the ground after the grocery stalls close down.
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I’m so familiar with this because I’m Israeli and my grandparents were holocaust survivors. Part of the reason I’ve volunteered in the past to help survivors like the ones in the video.
That's lovely! Good on you... still baffles me that you are refusing to see the issue here.
but those kids are a minority and if I knew where this was I could guess which group they’re from.
At the beginning it says they saw 13 holocaust survivor go through rubbish fruit and vegetables to be able to eat. You can say "rising living costs" all you want. If Israel respected holocaust survivors, rising living cost should never play a role, especially given all the funding they get for just that.
The issue seems to be widespread, not just a "couple few" here and there...
I don't meant to be disrespectful but your answer sounds like that of a politician trying to wiggle out of reality. The reality is that holocaust survivors are mistreated, maybe in an Israel that doesn't care about them or anyone anymore.