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2y ago

newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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One less reason to use Google for search.
- Ya. Duckduckgo is ok and Brave search is great
  
  I don’t understand why people recommend duckduckgo. Its not open source, still includes ads (sure they’re no as invasive), they’re a for profit company who will do who knows what with our data when the investors want to increase their profits, and the search results aren’t very good causing people to use the !g google shortcut anyways.
  If anything people should recommend a searx instance that uses google and other engines so you still get the good search results and dont feed google your data
  
  DDG let's Microsoft through the cracks.
  https://www.businesstoday.in/technology/news/story/duckduckgo-has-a-tracking-deal-with-microsoft-and-heres-why-no-one-is-happy-about-it-335450-2022-05-27

Google is unusable now. Google images is the worst.
- Not being able to open image in new tab and download them anymore has made it functionally useless for me.
  
  Yeah same, it's so hard to open or download a pic now, I actually opened bing earlier out of frustration D':
  
  Firefox is still out there, and great! You don't have to be beholden to chrome's bullshit.
  
  That's due to a lawsuit for copyrights... Google settled and made so users couldn't download the image from the Google app, they need to visit the site
  
  There is an extension for that, available on Firefox and Chrome. I couldn't use image search without it, to be honest.
  You suck, Getty Images.
  
  Blame Getty Images for that one
  
  Snipping tool FTW.
- The enshittification is complete.
  
  Been looking for this word, it's so perfectly succinct and evocative of the Web 3.0 sludgeworld.
  Search engines are almost entirely useless now. As much as I'd love an indie alternative, sending out millions of webcrawlers seems prohibitively expensive.

I love how Google's original intent of simply cataloging the net has now turned them into a net nanny whose job it is to prohibit vile copyright scofflaws from infesting others with their demented thinking.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=newpipe -> top result is newpipe.net
The takedown request on google.com was submitted by Because Music : Home of Christine and the Queens, Manu Chao, Justice, Metronomy, Parcels, Ed Banger Records…
- Home of Christine and the Queens, Manu Chao, Justice, Metronomy, Parcels, Ed Banger Records…
  I've never heard of any of those artists...
  
  neither have I, but it's who is listed on their website and perhaps who they're worried about people downloading via newpipe?
  
  Christine and the Queens is amazing tho.
- Is it finally time to switch to DuckDuckGo?
  
  Newpipe is still on Google for me, but I recommend DDG anyway because of its bangs support.

This french copyright troll doesn't hold any rights on YouTube (the website) so the DMCA removal request is invalid
No content hosted on newpipe.net is owned by that copyright troll, nor there are instructions or links to pirate that exact content so I don't understand how it it can be considered valid. I should be rejected, together with all the subsequent requests
- Because it's a YouTube clone android app that removes most ads. So sounds like googly is just using the take down request as an excuse to get try and get ride of the app.
  
  Google can 100% just send a request by themselves, they don't need to rely on third party copyright trolls

Wow, this is such shit. The request itself is so overly broad, it's a shame that google chose (or was forced) to honor it. I see the following listed in the request:
10 addons.mozilla.org
15 www.microsoft.com
16 play.google.com
40 en.wikipedia.org
45 chrome.google.com
58 www.trustpilot
64 soundcloud.com
65 www.facebook.com

I'm a YouTube Premium subscriber that uses NewPipe. If they kill it I'll be unsubbing.
- What's the benefit of Premium if you're gonna use NewPipe?
  
  Every now and then I'll cast to a TV or something and it avoids ads then.
- why subscribe
  
  Because it's so cheap it's essentially free. Family of 6 for less than £2 a month.

Kind of surprised that Google didn't already remove it considering it is an application that circumvents it's own products But you know, it was bound to happen eventually

Top result on Google is newpipe.net for me. Perhaps NewPipe has already submitted a counter notice and it has been restored? That's how the DMCA is supposed to work.

Definitely think this has been corrected because a search for "NewPipe" in an incognito window yields NewPipe.net as the first result with the Github, reddit, and F-Droid pages following.

I saw a Louis Rossmann video on this. Honestly, corporations don't even have to hide their intentions anymore. It's really sad that they can do shit plain in sight for everyone to see, but blind only to the legal system.

- I switched to duckduckgo a while back when I got tired of Google being a shitty search engine.
  
  Ddg claims to be private but nobody knows. I would rather use a search engine based in EU than a search engine based in USA. USA and China are big redflags

Took longer than I thought.
- If the DMCA was sent by YouTube, ok. But in this case it has been sent by a french copyright troll that has nothing to do with YouTube
- Yeah, Google has been weirdly tolerant of NewPipe and other YT-scraping apps for a while. I wonder what changed.
  
  Interest rates? Reddit/Twitter/YouTube can't just exist perpetually being unprofitable now, they have to actually have a pathway to revenue, since Venture Capitalists won't just throw money at a hundred different projects, hoping one is successful...
  
  I wonder what changed.
  CEO. 😉
  
  I wonder what changed.
  There is a link at the top of this page that will give you the answer.

How's newpipe compared to sometime like revanced? Anyone given both a go?
- With the newpipe sponsorblock fork, it's perfect. Simple and very functional. Supports more than just youtube too.
- I like NewPipe, but honestly I prefer LibreTube + [Piped](https://piped video/).
- NewPipe is better for playing a playlist in the background, ReVanced is better for active watching and browsing
- Depends on if you're looking for something like the official app or not.
- NewPipe doesn't support google login like revanced, so you have to import into the app your subscriptions. It has fewer features than revanced too, but I think the app is more optimized and has a cleaner UI. I still prefer revanced, but it's definitely worth it to try it out.
- I prefer revanced but newpipe is my backup

Feckin' gobshite!

I thought Newpipe stopped working a long time ago. I could never get it to work. Time to give it another try. If it wasn't for Google blocking the site, I would have forgotten about Newpipe :-D
- Works fine, but I often have to go to the website to get the latest update. F-Droid takes a while to catch up.
  
  That could have been the prob before. Well I'm back on with all my subscriptions. YouTube is bearable!
  
  Should be near instant if you add newpipe's F-Droid repo instead of waiting for it to hit F-Droid's main repo. Been a bit since the last release though.
  https://archive.newpipe.net/fdroid/repo?fingerprint=e2402c78f9b97c6c89e97db914a2751fda1d02fe2039cc0897a462bdb57e7501

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