Paris votes to crack down on SUVs | Non-Parisians will be charged almost $20 per hour to park large gas or hybrid vehicles within the city center in a bid to address pedestrian safety and air pollu...
Paris votes to crack down on SUVs | Non-Parisians will be charged almost $20 per hour to park large gas or hybrid vehicles within the city center in a bid to address pedestrian safety and air pollu...
SUV drivers will be charged up to $20 per hour to park in the city.
Paris votes to crack down on SUVs | Non-Parisians will be charged almost $20 per hour to park large gas or hybrid vehicles within the city center in a bid to address pedestrian safety and air pollu...::Parisians have voted to increase parking charges for out-of-town SUV drivers as part of the city’s efforts to address road safety, air pollution, and climate change.
World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF) study that found SUVs to be 20 percent more polluting and twice as likely to kill a pedestrian in a collision compared to smaller conventional cars.
Twice as likely to kill a pedestrian...if that number holds up this needs to happen in more cities. Driving an excessively deadly vehicle through crowded areas shouldn't be free.
I don't think some millionaire earned a 2x chance to kill a pedestrian by being able to pay. I'm not a fan of fees that only apply rules to poor people.
But outright bans are harder to get passed, so fees are better than nothing.
I fucking hate SUV's, and I drive one (company car, had no say in the matter). Tax them all to hell and back.
It's not free, at least not in Portugal. You pay an yearly tax per vehicle, the value depends on the vehicle model.
I'd love to see how they calculated those 20%. If it's merely a statistic of which type of car was involved in what share of deadly accidents with pedestrians, it says nothing about the car but rather about the drivers.
Once a car reaches a certain speed, it really doesn't matter if it's an ultralight vehicle or a tank.
Less mass means less momentum, so less force is required to slow it down, which means it can slow down faster in the time between noticing the pedestrian and colliding.
Higher hood means less visibility directly in front of the vehicle. It also means it's more likely to hit the centre of mass so the body takes the full force and falls on the ground the vehicle is moving towards, rather than lower so that the legs get pushed out and the body ends up falling on the hood.
On the flip side, they are more visible and generally louder, so pedestrians might be making fewer mistakes on their end.
The differences aren't about when they hit someone at a high enough speed any vehicle will likely kill them, it's about the thresholds between a harmless bump and a fatal injury.
And even if the driver is the main factor, that's all the more reason to increase the burden involved in driving them.
Indeed, but the cost of acceleration up to that speed is heavily influenced by mass.
And I don't know many cities where you can cruise endlessly without traffic, stops, red lights, etc. Especially Paris where you would be lucky to attain 50km/h.
It’s time for Pedestrian crash avoidance mitigation (PCAM) to be enforced as standard feature. Much better solution. Large vehicles will still need to exist, even though I agree fewer of them should.
I think restrictions like these should also include SUV EVs. Safety is the bigger priority than incentivizing a few more EV sales and in the future, there may only be EVs anyway.
Honestly, they should just ban all SUVs from entering altogether.
Not because of the environment or safety, just because I hate that everything is an SUV these days and they are boring af
It includes electric vehicles over two tonnes, and hybrids/gas over 1.6 tonnes
Oversized vehicles are just as destructive to the environment, regardless of whether they are EV or not. In order to move that much mass, they require exponentially more electricity, which results in increased battery size and therefore more mass.
This isn’t a flaw EVs per se, it is a flaw of obnoxiously obese vehicles.
I'd love it if there were a wide range of offerings for EVs that aren't crossovers/SUVs. Once you take them off the list, it's slim pickings. Doubly so if you want range over 200mi, and doubly so again if you refuse to buy a Tesla.
"You can try the Mustang Mach-E, that doesn't have much SUV in it."
Well they also exempt taxis and city residents so it’s not about safety or the environment it’s about the money.
All SUV should be banned, but at least city residents pay taxes to the city. Sub urbanites think that they own the city and try to force it's habitats to accept an insecure, congested, and contaminated city because is comfortable for them. If you don't want to live in the city, it's OK, but don't pretend the city have to back forward for you (not talking about you personally, talking about people who lives in suburbs).
Glad to see an european country taking steps to counteract the trend of larger cars.
good. suvs are terrible in so many ways just for vanity
Only non-Parisians? :(
The article is wrong. Paris is divided in 20 districts (arrondissements), and the new fee applies to cars parked outside of their home district, as well as non-Parisians.
That is... Better than expected
Well, it would not be fun if people suddenly voted against themselves just to do the right thing for everyone.
I hope that this becomes practice throuout Europe and the UK. UK ministers however will say almost anything for short term gain.
For people not living in Europe to give some context this is what a French SUV looks like compared to a F150.
'Paris votes' but 5.6% of parisians made the effort. Laughable
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Parisians have voted to triple parking charges for out-of-town SUV drivers as part of the city’s efforts to address road safety, air pollution, and climate change.
“Paris is transforming itself to allow people to breathe better and live better.” In a video published to Facebook on November 14th, Hidalgo promoted the referendum by referencing a World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF) study that found SUVs to be 20 percent more polluting and twice as likely to kill a pedestrian in a collision compared to smaller conventional cars.
The vote was closely monitored by other capital cities like London, which face similar challenges in tackling the various safety and pollution issues caused by the growing global popularity of SUV-type vehicles.
The increase in SUV parking rates is the latest measure Hidalgo has pursued to make Paris more friendly to the environment, pedestrians, and cyclists.
Paris officials have improved cycling infrastructure and announced plans to set up a traffic-reducing “tranquil zone” to reduce the flow of vehicles into the city center, for example, and successfully banned rental electric scooters last year following a rise in injuries and fatalities among users.
Hidalgo said last week that the removal of rental scooters had introduced a “feeling of liberation and calm,” which Paris aims to build upon further by reducing the number of SUVs in the city center.
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So if I rent a 9 pax van and bring 8 friends to Paris, it will cost more money than if we all took separate smaller vehicles?
Article says they are tripling the cost, and 9 is more than 3, so...no.
Okay let’s do some more math. Let’s say we take three separate smaller cars. Parking price evens out if the cost for one larger vehicle is triple. But now you have three vehicles bringing in pollution instead of a large one that only takes 20% more than a smaller one. And those three vehicles take up more parking spaces and create more traffic on the roads, which would go against their stated claim of making the roads safer for pedestrians and cyclists.
Just be careful that those cars are not too heavy. Since this law says 1.6t , a Toyota Camry qualifies as an SUV
So a Toyota rav4 hybrid (3,800 pounds) would be treated like a big truck. RAV4 has better front viewing than a sedan. This is just feel good bullshit.
If it’s about safety just make Pedestrian crash avoidance mitigation (PCAM) standard by law going forward.
By my European standards that is definitely an SUV for me. It is less about ability to see a pedestrian than it is about the ability to kill if someone gets hit with a high vehicle front.
It is also about taking up a lot of space. European streets are small an parking spots are also small. These big cars frequently take up more than 1 parking spot.
Still a 60% weight increase to a VW Up! A car much better suited for living in a European metropol.
What do you mean?
Source on the better visibility?
Tf should I sucrifice my car size and toughness because of some stupid pedestrians and drivers going where they want and as they want? I don't behave this way nor as driver, nor as pedestrian. If you say MOST of people behave this way, why should I be treated as majority if I'm a minority? If you worry about size, just make parking slots smaller, why tf there should taxes and other discrimination?
Two pedestrians walk out into the street while looking at their phones. They bump into each other, and each says "Oof. Oh, sorry. I wasn't looking where I was going." Then they both continue on their way, and barely remember that each failed to follow the rules of travel on the roads of their town.
That interaction becomes VASTLY different when one or both of those people is driving an SUV.
It says it right there: SUVs are less safe and more polluting. The entire city is impacted by that, so they're recouping some of the cost.
