femboys and egg culture rule
femboys and egg culture rule
How to get out of an uncomfortable egg culture situation with this one simple trick.
Real talk: Calling people eggs is a violation of the egg prime directive, and is considered invalidating as you are trying to say that a person is not the gender they identify as, that their identity is invalid. Don't call people eggs, like ever, it's extremely uncool.
Wait when did "egg" in the context of gender and sexuality become a thing?
"You egg" is an old insult in New Zealand since at least the 1980s meaning you are a dork or loveable idiot.
Edit: there's heaps of examples in Taika Waititi's NZ films.
Realising one is trans is often called "cracking your egg". Calling someone an egg in this context means insinuating the person is trans (and hasn't realised it yet).
@tb_ thanks, got it. Has it been a thing for many years or is it new?
Shakespeare uses it too!
@JohnDClay @Malgas omg this is as good as the time I found out Hieronymous Bosch had painted a kiwi bird.
It's similar to being in the closet. When you come out as a trans person, you "come out of your shell" so to speak. As such, people who haven't are considered to be "eggs" still inside their shells.
I think if you make sure to call someone an "igg", or preferably, a "bliddy igg", then should still be fine
@porous_grey_matter I think I just need to make sure I only use it on other Kiwis.
Also Shakespeare:
What, you egg! [He Stabs Him]
–Macbeth Act 4, Scene 2
Fem boys aren't an example of an egg anyways. If a person is calling a femboy an egg they are completely misunderstanding what an egg is.
Eggs are funny and sometimes adorable because they don't quite know who they are and they give hints at who they want to be. A femboy is someone who knows who they are.
There is a general rule in the LGBT+ community now we have a lexicon (and some indices) of terms by which you can navigate your desires, feelings and behavior.
That lexicon exists to help you sort out who you are. It's not there for you to categorize other people. People really don't fit into categories (in any sense) and there are always outliers and fringe cases.
If someone starts an I wonder if I'm an egg conversation, its okay to engage with awareness of comfort levels. We each are captains of our own respective identities.
The hardest thing for people to grok is identity ≠ behavior. The continued necessity of the closet means we are still not free to be our true selves in public. Yes, this can be weird, but even close friends can gatekeep by surprise. We need room to explore and be cautious, even if you, personally are dedicated to inclusion and tolerance.
So yeah, if someone seems enby or trans to you, they remain whatever they identify as, and only they get to decide when it is open to discussion.
I don't know why people can't just let other people live their lives in peace.
The hell is an egg?? I'm a fluid femboy and I stg we get so lost in semantics man like what is this? Is this really a thing thats affecting people?
I call my cat an egg when he sits in his little basket. He looks like he's an egg sitting in an egg poacher.
Is this really real? Egg seems like such a fun and friendly thing to call someone, like saying they have a lot of potential! I don't want look it up now cuz I'm gonna get my heart broken. Thank you at least for the warning, assuming you are being genuine.
It's ok to call yourself an egg, but calling other people eggs is like saying "I know your gender identity better than you do".
I'd say the only time it's ok to call someone else an egg is if it's past tense, if the person has transitioned, and if their transition is public knowledge.
I've always thought of it like the prime directive: you shouldn't interfere, you should only be there in a supportive fashion when it happens.
Oof, that sounds so horrible! I'm not even sure that using egg in past-tense seems right. That feels like drinking with buddies when someone who's known you your whole life starts regaling the group with the last time you peed the bed. Sure, it's out of your control and there's nothing to be particularly ashamed of, but why you gotta bring that up, yo?
An egg is a term in the LGBTQ community for someone who is exploring their gender or is in denial of it. When an egg cracks/hatches, a trans person has accepted who they really are. Calling someone an egg is telling them they’re trans, and is not something anyone should dictate about someone else.
egg should only ever be a self-label anyway
I didnt know that was a slur
It’s not a slur, the point is that you don’t get to dictate someone else’s personal journey. Instead we tell our stories, and if that helps someone relate, it’s because our story resonates with their story.
It's not really a slur, it's just really uncool, as it makes assumptions about the person's identity.
Everything can be a slur if we put our hearts into it ❤
If you put the straw in the bottom of a capri sun, you're a boy. If you put it in the top you're a girl.
Ah man... So I can't use my favorite Shakespearean insult?
Dies.
I think there's enough difference in the context and tone that these two use-cases don't really collide much besides being the same word.
"Egg" on its own is generic enough that it really needs context to know what one means, usually said context is situational.
untortunately it's part of hon culture to call amab ppl who do steretypically fem things eggs
"hon culture"
/TTTT/ and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race.
Hard agree, I just got a case of the brainworms during my last mental breakdown phase (still ongiong). I did/do hate myself enough enough to browse it for a while (luckily I never rly posted/participated and only been there for a short while). Also deleted the app I used to acces the chans but I'm still sorry for all the ppl on /lgbt/ bc I feel the pain and dysphoria lvls
Some vocabulary, however, is just accurate and fitting imo.
Fyi: I'm against the full medicalization of trans-ness and think a model akin to the on of neurodivergency would be a good pov. (fuck truscums, tho as I said I feel sorry for their lvls of hatred, as I can very much relate).
But they are right about some things like the toxic positivity in many trans spaces, especially hugboxing.
what the hell is a "hon"
Beautiful I love it! 💜
