Dem Rep Dean Phillips of Minnesota calls on Biden to "Pass the Torch" to another presidential candidate
Dem Rep Dean Phillips of Minnesota calls on Biden to "Pass the Torch" to another presidential candidate
{ Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.) said Sunday he wants President Biden to stand down on his 2024 Democratic presidential primary bid to give another Democrat a shot at the White House.
Why it matters: Phillips has previously called on others to challenge Biden in the 2024 Democratic nomination but is not committing himself to running as of yet.
- "I would like to see Joe Biden, a wonderful and remarkable man, pass the torch — cement this extraordinary legacy," Phillips said on NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday.
- "And by the way, this is not how everybody thinks, but I do believe the majority wants to move on," he added.
- Phillips said his views on Biden stepping down are not based on the president's age but rather "how people feel."
By the numbers: 56% of U.S. adults said they had an unfavorable opinion of Biden, compared to just 32% of those with favoring opinions on the president, according to a CNN poll in June.
- Prospective voters in the CNN poll also had an unfavorable view of former President Donald Trump at 59%.
- An April poll from NBC News revealed that 70% of Americans think Biden should not seek another term. Of those responses, 51% came from Democrats.
- 60% of those polled by NBC also thought Trump shouldn't run for president again. Of those, a third identified themselves as Republican voters.
- "Joe Biden right now is down seven points in the four swing states that will decide the next election," said Phillips, who also pointed to Biden's historically low approval numbers.
- Phillips added that he's not saying Biden is "not up to a second term," but that the numbers reflect that Americans want change and a new Democratic candidate. }
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In a vacuum, sure. Biden is way older than I'd like to have in the white house. We desperately need younger politicians with fresher ideas.
But like. Let's be serious. It is just as important at this moment in history that Trump not win, and Biden has already shown he can beat Trump. That's the only important thing right now. We can figure out who runs to replace Biden after term two.
This is my understanding as well. No one voted for Biden. He's just the person that was bland and white enough to beat knot head.
Yup. He's simply not an exciting person or candidate. He's not really even all that liberal. Just fine when your target voters are moderately conservative swing voters who fancy themselves principled enough not to vote for an obvious criminal. Democrats will already vote for him because he's the democratic candidate. He's trying to appeal to never-trumpers. And it worked.
Biden beat trump in 2020, now he is polling neck and neck with Biden, we Need to Run Someone Else or Trump is Going To Win.
Polling is volatile and things move quickly in elections, especially when they're over a year apart.
This time in 2011, Obama was polling about the same as Biden is now: low 40s approval, low 50s disapproval. Gallup's Aug 8-14 2011 poll had Obama at 40 approve/52 disapprove. For that matter Trump in 2019 was seeing similar numbers. In early fall 2020 and 2016, Trump was polling in the complete dumps and the polls were predicting landslide dem wins. Early fall 2008 showed McCain slightly more likely to win than not. Fall polling in 2012 showed a bare Obama advantage, but there was enough data there saying that Romney was going to win that without sites like 538, it wasn't at all obvious who was favored.
It could be that Biden will remain weak. But people were predicting that Biden's weak approval numbers were going to hurt in the 2022 midterms, and it was easily the best dem midterm in decades. If not for CA and NY dropping the ball dems would have even held the house! Which is basically insane. There's no reason to be confident that the polling data will stay the same. In fact, it's almost certain that polling numbers will change, and dramatically, in the months ahead. In which direction is far less certain.
The point being... Polling, today, of an election in fifteen months, is borderline worthless. We also have one data point suggesting Biden's weak numbers aren't actually an albatross at the ballot box.
Very True, we cannot prediction the future, that's why I think by this time next year Cornel West will be the front runner 😎
I want some of whatever you're smoking!
true and justice my dear brother/sister
polls and Jokes Aside, what would make you think that Biden's popularity is actually going to increase? Biden is no Obama. Especially if there is both Cornel West and Joe Manchin who will be chipping away at both his left and centrist support. It could even be the GOP splits and runs 2 or more candidates. I Don't think there even is precedent for this, and well, I'm just gonna say I don't think Biden has the kind of political acumen to navigate that kind of chaotic and unprecedented election year.
West is a nothingburger. If you think he'll impact anything other than a 2000-redux, you're spending too much time on online politics. Same deal for the GOP splitting. Manchin, quite simply, won't run for president. He likes attention but he's not dumb. He might be an asshole but dumb is the last thing he is, and if he wanted to sabotage the democratic party he's had far better opportunities to do just that for years.
Trump wasn't Obama either, and his popularity went up. Obama wasn't even "Obama" (as we think of him today) at this stage stage in his presidency. The year three slump is not some historical aberration or oddity. All three of them had near identical polling numbers (~40 up, ~50 down) at this stage in their presidency. Clinton wasn't looking much better at this stage either: mid 40s approve, low 40s disapprove at this stage. He went on to have the largest popular vote win (nine points!) we've had since Reagan's win in 1984.
Polling now is borderline worthless.
2000 redux
Why are Democrats Lying about the 2000 election? Gore Won, the Bush Bros sabotaged the election, Bush's victory was declared by the supreme court.
Likewise far more registered Dems voted Bush than all green voters combined.
Stop rewriting history and legitimizing the Bush Administration.
If there is one thing that should be your takeaway from the last decade of US politics and media coverage, it should be that polls are not to be trusted.
A good pollster can make their data say whatever they want.
What we need is for people to get out and vote. The threat of Trump should be enough to mobilize voters. It's not like Biden was an inspirational candidate last time. And all he's done is go out and do probably a bit better than most thought he would.
I'll agree with you there that polls generally can't be trusted, and I agree people need to get out and vote, but It makes our job a lot easier if you have a candidate that people actually like. So I really hope -- for the sake of the republic -- that they convince Joe to step down and open up the primaries.