Actors say Hollywood studios want their AI replicas — for free, forever
Actors say Hollywood studios want their AI replicas — for free, forever
No, this is not a Black Mirror episode.
“This ‘groundbreaking’ AI proposal that they gave us yesterday, they proposed that our background performers should be able to be scanned, get one day’s pay, and their companies should own that scan, their image, their likeness and should be able to use it for the rest of eternity on any project they want, with no consent and no compensation. So if you think that’s a groundbreaking proposal, I suggest you think again.”
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There may be a group of entertainers i have less sympathy for than actors, but i'd be hard pressed to think who it might be.
If these same studio owner types could AI your job away and send you into poverty, they would. And eventually they will. So I'll stick with the actors on this side, not to mention this is about background actors, who 99% of the time are regular people with regular jobs who use background acting as a side gig, and they want to ai away their jobs.
Man if AI could take my job i'd let it have it and then feel bad for it.
That only works if you get a basic income to supplement the job you lost, otherwise it's just profit for your boss while you get fucked
Why?
Most of the actors I know are really nice.
Because they don't need more money.
They need to spend less. It's not about putting food on the table. It's about living as lavish a lifestyle as possible to show off in front of your peers.
Hmm I think you're thinking about like the 1% of actors who are rich and famous.
Most actors are not in that situation. They are just working people like anyone else only their income is precarious like any freelancer.
No, I'm thinking about the vast majority of people who live in LA.
They're just passing a bunch of money around at the top. As soon as they make more, prices go up and the world's poorest continue to stagnate.
Surely even in LA a lot of the actors are waiters/bit part extras?
As for world poverty I agree it's more inportant than better payment for workers in wealthy nations, but I think it's ok to care about both.
I guess I wasn't one of the vast majority of people who lived in L.A. I was just working crew and occasional actor. My money went to things like rent and food. Weirdly, most of my colleagues were in the same boat.
Now admittedly, there are millions of people in L.A., but a lot of the ones in the entertainment industry sure as hell weren't passing money around, we were barely making a living.
Yeah, a living in one of the most expensive cities in the world.
You could be living a cheaper life anywhere else, but you feel entitled to live in LA.
No sympathy from me. Spread out.
I live in a cheaper place now. Indiana. My quality of life is not especially different. I didn't feel entitled to live in L.A., I went where I could put my skills to good use. Being paid a low wage in L.A. was a higher wage than a low wage in Indiana, but the cost of living is also higher.
Maybe don't make guesses about how other people live their lives.
And let me guess- I shouldn't have moved to Indiana, I should have moved to Botswana or something if I don't want to feel "entitled."
No, moving to Indiana is fine. Thank you for sharing.
So I don't feel "entitled" to live in a first-world country where I have things like running water and electricity? Seems like the same sort of "entitled" as living in a city where you have a job that you think is the best job for what you want to do with your life. Shouldn't I be working in a strip mine in Mongolia or not ever complain about my life?
Or is Los Angeles somehow a special case?
I just said Indiana was fine.
California is the most expensive state to live in. People don't need to live there and would be using capital more efficiently elsewhere.
I'm not in the camp of "all or nothing." I think magnitude matters and we can all be doing more to reduce the disparity in wealth besides "making more money."
OK we get it. You hate actors and anything that gets close to them. Now go hang out in shit posts.
No, I don't hate actors. You clearly don't get it.
I keep saying I have no sympathy for greedy people. Globally speaking, most people living in LA are wealthy. They're just passing that wealth around at the top which is why other places of the world stagnate.
It's a cultural issue. You're just upset someone is criticizing that culture of consumerism.
You're not making any useful point. Just screaming into the void. I'm not really sure how you don't see this as turning into a much bigger problem. When Ai is able to synthesis human labor those at the bottom get fucked first.
I've been very clear about the points I'm making.
Are you arguing we shouldn't replace labor with robots because humans wouldn't have to work? Can you see how backwards that is?
I think doing so without some changes to our capitolist society is going to cause a lot of pain and suffering.
I might could agree aaa level actors don't need more money, there's plenty who do. And not just actors but most everyone who makes the movies and shows we enjoy gets fucked by the producers and studios.
I guess the point is that money is being made and when it isn't going to the people actually involved in productions, it goes straight to studio executives and shareholders, including those same execs. If films are making a lot of money, why should people on certain rungs of the production ladder be working paycheque to paycheque or be being strongarmed in to signing away any hope of future earnings.
I don't really think you know the difference between 'want' and 'need.'
It's not like these people are surviving off of peanut butter sandwiches, lol. A lot of them probably think they're too good to shop at places like Walmart, too.
No, they get no sympathy from me. Not while children go without food, water, shelter, electricity, and education.
things are worse elsewhere so they shouldnt try to improve their life. great response.
i hope when you need a pay raise your boss has the same attitude.
No. People who have more wealth than average don't deserve more so long as children go without: food, water, electricity, education, and shelter.
Instead of lying about what I'm saying, why not try to argue against it? Why do you people keep putting words in my mouth? Oh yeah, because it's easier to argue against than what I'm actually saying.
your whole argument is things are worse in africa so they shouldnt get any more money. its a bullshit argument. everyone deserves to live a better life. with that argument we might as well go back to the robber baron days because people had it worse than the striking workers even back then. after all why should someone with 4 walls a roof and a bed complain about their working conditions, others have it worse. "oh your 7yo lost her right arm in an industrial accident? dont complain theres people who dont have any jobs to go to." great argument.
yes we as a whole global community should be doing a lot more for the least of us but most of the people that bring us entertainment arent swimming in gold pools ala scrooge mcduck. like the vast majority of americans they are barely getting by. and besides the money not going to everyone else making movies and tv shows arent going to make the lives of anyone else better but the studio execs and producers.
Sorry, I didn't read that long-winded comment.
You didn't seem like you had anything crucial to say, just trying to double-down on rich people getting richer at everyone else's expense.
sry i not red 2 mch. u respnce doodoo.
Would you take a pay raise? Because you probably don't really deserve it with your fancy internet connection.
I don't need a pay raise, but I would definitely take one.
I'd rather have copyright and patent laws die.
I agree.
I really don't care for people in LA complaining they don't have enough money.