What I'm saying is even the victors suffer the loss of many deaths thus the only winners are the military industrial complex supplying the arms and becoming enriched. Does that make more sense?
Solzhenitsyn said that there's nothing worse for a country than to win a big war. This is filtered a little through my own perception, but the best I remember it was that winning a war teaches the lesson that all the maniacs were right and gives them all kinds of confidence to let them do more of the same, which never ends well at home or abroad. He said that usually if a country loses a big war, it comes out of it with some wisdom, and regards any maniacs at home or abroad with deep visceral suspicion from then on, which is as it should be.
Some people think in simple binaries, and lump people into groups based on who they believe holds a certain view.
Say anything negative about Israel, you must be pro-Hamas.
Say anything negative about Biden, you must be pro-Trump.
Say anything 'negative' about Ukraine (even something as simple as that Ukraine's youth being conscripted and dying is horrible), you must be pro-Russia.
The military-industrial complexes always have something to gain in wars (provided they manage to adapt in time). But there's no other alternative industry that can supply the needed hardware to win a war, when an invasion happens. It just seems that's all what our species can do best: kicking each other, then having a rest for a few dozen years and starting over.
I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you trying to say that it being pro-war is a necessary evil? Are you assuming that the world would be less better off without powerful and breathtakingly enriched entities that thrive on war?
I'm not saying I have all the answers but I don't think I have to have all the answers to be against war or to be against the military industrial complex. Maybe that's just me. 😁