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No. That can't be it.

Are protesters upset after watching Israel nonstop slaughter thousands of children for the last 6 months???

No. That can't be it. They're all just secretly anti-semitic or something.

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  • Dumb meme.

    “We have to think about what we’re doing, and what we have to do is try to stop the suffering in Gaza … but for them to call for a ceasefire is Mr. Putin’s message,” she said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union,” referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin. “Make no mistake, this is directly connected to what he would like to see.”

    “I think … some of these protesters are spontaneous and organic and sincere,” Pelosi said. “Some, I think, are connected to Russia. And I say that having looked at this for a long time now, as you know.”

    This is undeniably accurate, from Pelosi: Foreign adversaries are absolutely amplifying a pro Gaza message.

    Maybe you're sincere. Doesn't mean everyone you find agreeing with you isn't a flaming dumbass who got tricked by foreign manipulation.

    • Why would Putin want a ceasefire?

      Wouldn't he want the slaughter to be as bloody and longterm as possible? Israel is exposing the facade of the Western Rules-Based world order and the non-existence of international criminal law. Not only is the West not stopping their genocide, the West is actually funding and enabling it.

      Which is good for Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa - who all aspire to destroy western global institutions and replace them with substitutes that favor the non-western world. Which includes replacing the Dollar as the world's currency.

      Given that, a cease-fire would be the worst thing for Putin. He should be hoping that Netanyahu carpet bombs Rafah into rubble. Although Israel blatantly violating such a ceasefire and then never being held accountable would also be a good result for Putin - and for Netanyahu, who needs to destroy liberal democratic rules in order to personally stay out of prison, same as Trump

      • You know if you don't want to look like a raging west bad cynic you might be more interested in not almost verbatim repeating the geopolitical opinions of Hitler's personal lawyer and legal theorist.

        https://youtu.be/XXmwyyKcBLk?si=3Y6EIxgBFiI-lj3a

        Also, pushing the ceasefire when it's obvious it won't happen is good for him because it demoralises the opposition to his allies in the western world making it more likely they'll fail to turn out against his known efforts to dismantle western democracy like he believes in some mirror world version of democratic peace theory and can't imagine that a dictatorial US wouldn't be waaaaaaay more likely to be coming for his throat.

      • I doubt it's about that. Putin wants a friendly administration in the White House that would reduce/eliminate sanctions, stop supporting Ukraine, and look the other way when Russia grabs more land.

        Gaza is one of the areas where Biden is the weakest, and Putin is surely doing everything in his power to make Gaza an issue that loses Biden votes.

        • Putin wants a friendly administration in the White House that would reduce/eliminate sanctions, stop supporting Ukraine, and look the other way when Russia grabs more land.

          Yes, but to what ultimate end? Is it not to the ultimate end of ending the Post-WWII international order and replacing it with either a multipolar heavily-regionalized series of "legal" orders? Or perhaps it is even to create a new unipolar world that is rooted in Beijing - with rules and norms that will be created accordingly

          Clearly the emerging powers of the world do not like the Western system that has been imposed upon them. Destroying it is one of their goals. And one contributing method of that destruction is for Israel under the criminal Netanyahu to erode any remaining moral clarity that the West's institutions possess.

          After all, if these international bodies have revealed themselves to be merely extensions of Washington's will, then surely it is right to replace them with new institutions that are rooted in "justice"? And who better to design that system of "justice" than those nations whose hands are not bloodied by 500 years of imperialism, colonialism, genocide, and trans-atlantic slavery?

      • Well, those are your feelings based on shallow knowledge and speculation.

        The intelligence and diplomatic corps of the western world do not agree with your take that there's a genocide going on and that Israel is responsible for it. Hamas is putting these people in harm's way. Every dead body in Gaza rests at the feet of Hamas. They could come out of their tunnels and surrender tomorrow and there will not be one more dead body in Gaza. Instead, they tell people, their own families and children, that the evacuation warnings are a hoax and that they should stay inside buildings that are built right on top of tunnels to die as proud martyrs. They have it all set up for Al Jazeera to come in and take a bunch of pictures of all the bodies and point the finger at Israel. It is Hamas that wants the war to be as long as bloody as possible, as that is their only strategy: using crocodile tears and fake sympathy for "martyrs" to trick soft westerners be so sad about 35,000 dead as to side with violent pan-Islamist nationalists and Iran against their own elected governments.

        Russians want a ceasefire for the same reason Iran wants one, because they want Iran to be able to have a proxy that shares miles of border with America's proxy. That's it. Not complicated. It's strategic planning for what those dumbasses think will be open war between their modern Axis of Evil and the West.

        The future is in representative government and democracy, not insane religious nonsense that one guy can change on a whim. No legitimate human rights can arise from such governance.

        • In March 2024, the UN special rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the OPT found there were "reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating the commission" of acts of genocide had been met.

          https://www.un.org/unispal/document/anatomy-of-a-genocide-report-of-the-special-rapporteur-on-the-situation-of-human-rights-in-the-palestinian-territory-occupied-since-1967-to-human-rights-council-advance-unedited-version-a-hrc-55/

          "By analysing the patterns of violence and Israel’s policies in its onslaught on Gaza, this report concludes that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating Israel’s commission of genocide is met. One of the key findings is that Israel’s executive and military leadership and soldiers have intentionally distorted jus in bello principles, subverting their protective functions, in an attempt to legitimize genocidal violence against the Palestinian people."

          "Conclusions
          93. The overwhelming nature and scale of Israel’s assault on Gaza and the destructive conditions of life it has inflicted reveal an intent to physically destroy Palestinians as a group. This report finds that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating the commission of the following acts of genocide against Palestinians in Gaza has been met: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to groups’ members; and deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part. Genocidal acts were approved and given effect following statements of genocidal intent issued by senior military and government officials.

          94. Israel has sought to conceal its eliminationist conduct of hostilities sanctioning the commission of international crimes as IHL-abiding. Distorting IHL customary rules, including distinction, proportionality and precautions, Israel has de facto treated an entire protected group and its life-sustaining infrastructure as ‘terrorist’ or ‘terrorist-supporting’, thus transforming everything and everyone into either a target or collateral damage, hence killable or destroyable. In this way, no Palestinian in Gaza is safe by definition. This has had devastating, intentional effects, costing the lives of tens of thousands of Palestinians, destroying the fabric of life in Gaza and causing irreparable harm to its entire population.

          95. Israel’s genocide on the Palestinians in Gaza is an escalatory stage of a longstanding settler colonial process of erasure. For over seven decades this process has suffocated the Palestinian people as a group – demographically, culturally, economically and politically –, seeking to displace it and expropriate and control its land and resources. The ongoing Nakba must be stopped and remedied once and for all. This is an imperative owed to the victims of this highly preventable tragedy, and to future generations in that land."

        • In 6-months, Israel has killed more than 34,000 Palestinians, and wounded more than 78,000.

          70% of those casualties are women and children.

          Israel has destroyed more than 221,000 housing units, leaving almost half the population homeless.

          Israel has decimated their civilian infrastructure, electricity, water, and sewage.

          Israel has destroyed 26 hospitals, killed more than 400 healthcare workers.

          Israel has destroyed every single University in Gaza, 56 different schools, and badly damaged hundreds more, leaving over half a million students without access to education.

          Israel has violated international law. It has blocked foreign aid to help these people, leaving them starving, sick, destitute, and dying....

          ....and you're staying that everyone in Gaza is dead because Hamas is to blame? How do you do the mental gymnastics that allow you to fully absolve Israel of all blame in their tactics? I'm genuinely curious what goes on in that sick, twisted mind of yours.

          Just go ahead and say you support the genocide of the Gazan people. It's essentially what you've been defending for months now...

          • They built 450 miles of tunnels under an area only 25 miles wide and have used them for decades to smuggle weapons and humans, and to launch terror attacks including 40,000+ actually indiscriminate rocket attacks, so many suicide bombings I cannot remember all of them, and now their latest, the largest mass shooting in world history.

            It sucks that terrorists squandered all Gaza's resources, corrupted every institution, and rejected democratic governance, so that they could go all in on international terrorism and build 450 mi. of tunnels under 210,000+ units of housing, under hospitals, schools, churches, etc., all filled with 70% women and children, who were forced or tricked by Hamas into ignoring evacuation orders and disregarding air strike warnings, to stay and die, so they could be proud, heroic Martyrs, for Hamas's (read: Iran's) cause, all while the men hide under ground with plenty of food and water, or go live in Qatar in extravagant wealth, a reward for all the Jews they've killed. That's the reality of it.

            Seven months to the day to get to 35,000 people. That's 5,000 a month. How do you feel about that? Horrified and enraged, sad? Me too. That's Hamas's leadership at work. They could surrender tomorrow and stop the violence, but since they don't give a single fuck about the lives of their own families, friends, and neighbors, they keep fighting. At a bare minimum, Hamas could follow a single international law, such as wearing uniforms. Hamas could stop giving pensions and bonuses (paid in Rial or Riyal) to Gazans who kill Israeli civilians. Merely saying that out loud in Gaza would be treated as infidelity to Islam, and punishable by death. That's Hamas leadership at work.

            As an aside, how would you feel about 35,000 people dying per day? It would be up to 900,000 by now. That's what a war between Israel and Iran would look like and that's a very conservative estimate. It might even be more like 35,000 per hour. God damn, imagine how sad you'd be then; seven months of daily horror and grief packed into just one hour, every hour.

            No, I don't support genocide. I support a course of action that preserves stability in the middle east and sets up governments capable of granting and preserving lasting human rights. And that means a future without Hamas. Israel's strong alliance with the West pushes Israel toward more just and democratic ideals, and it stops Iran from waging a war that result in the greatest humanitarian catastrophe in world history, resulting from the cascade of failed states that would follow from the absolutely overwhelming number of war refugees who'd be fleeing the middle east to countries in North Africa and Eastern Europe. Don't talk to me about protecting human life when yout want to end the thing that prevents all this, just to see revenge on Israel for a small town worth of people in collateral casualties. That's some real smoothbrain foresight. I'm about protecting human life in the aggregate, and lasting human rights. That's not ever going to come from governments which are based on mysticism and superstitious nonsense, subject to the whim of a few religious nutjobs.

            I hope your government isn't too busy mourning 35,000 people that they fail to protect the 35,000,000, or more. Mine isnt. 100,000,000 people live in Iran. 11,000,000 in Isael. Keeping that war from happening by any means is pretty important, if you are not just pretending to be concerned about human life.

    • Yeah, listen to... * checks notes * Nancy Pelosi.

    • Doesn’t mean everyone you find agreeing with you isn’t a flaming dumbass

      I'm right and you're wrong,

      I'm big and you're small,

      and there's nothing you can do about it.

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