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The deal Israel wants, anyway.

Yeah, because giving up your only leverage permanently in exchange for what basically amounts to pressing pause on the genocide is SUCH a good deal!

Hamas might be despicable terrorists, but presumably they're not total idiots!

That's the worst deal since the Dutch sold New Amsterdam (now New York) to the English for a bunch of nutmeg! Nutmeg was hella expensive back then 😛

I'm just going off what it said in the article

Well yeah, that's been Israel's playbook for the last 8 decades of conflict.

The reality is that both Hamas and Israel would do the same in a "permanent cease fire". Hamas famously won't sign a peace treaty with Israel - that's how they became famous internationally in the 90s, by refusing the peace process. For the same reason Netanyahu - and most Israeli leaders - won't sign a proper peace treaty with Hamas. Both want to eradicate the other.

If that's the reassurance they needed, they are monumentally stupid. The US supports Israel and anything they decide to do unconditionally.

singling out Nettanyahu and saying that he will is not antisemitism.

Saying that all Israelis naturally will is however.

Ben dude doesn't want to give Palestinians a chance to regroup while he faces his own political discord at home in Israel. I am only looking at this from an outside perspective, I could be wrong. It's not a bad strategy, Russia be doing it for years now.

Wayback machine cuts off early, but this is what it gives:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240506193731/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/06/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-gaza-ceasefire-talks.html

The announcement by Hamas on Monday that it had accepted terms of a cease-fire added to the uncertainty that began over the weekend, when officials said that the armed group and Israel had reached an impasse after months of talks.

As if to underscore that the fighting would continue, Hamas militants on Sunday launched rockets from Rafah, their last stronghold in Gaza, killing four Israeli soldiers. The following morning, Israel announced a mass evacuation of areas in Rafah, escalating fears that the military would soon begin a long-anticipated invasion of the crowded city.

Hours later, Hamas suddenly announced that its leader, Ismail Haniyeh, had accepted a cease-fire proposal based on a plan proffered by Egypt and Qatar, which have been mediating the negotiations with Israel. The terms Hamas had agreed to were not immediately clear, but a senior Israeli official quickly said that the terms were not those that Israel had agreed to.

While Israel and its main ally, the United States, said they were reviewing the proposal Hamas had agreed to, the public statements by the two sides in the war suggest that they remain far apart on key issues needed to reach a truce. Here is a look at those differences.

Hamas wants a permanent cease-fire. Israel wants a temporary truce. The two sides are stuck on a fundamental question: will this cease-fire be a temporary pause to allow an exchange of hostages for prisoners or a long-term end to the fighting that would leave Hamas in power?

Israel insists on a temporary cease-fire, saying it will keep fighting afterward with the eventual aim of toppling Hamas’s rule in Gaza. Hamas demands a permanent cease-fire and vows to remain in power there.

AP is saying the same thing.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-war-humanitarian-aid-8659eae6e0a7362504f0aa4aa4be53e0

A ceasefire is when both sides agree to cease firing. The article headline is quite clearly correct, but I know you aren't interested in facts.

Do you think I'm channeling my inner Kissinger?

They were talking about op, obviously

It's actually the correct way to use the possesive. You only use the apostrophe when the noun is plural and ends with "s"

So this Tameem is full of shit?

Hamas doesn't give a single shit about starving children. Their leadership are old rich men living in comfort abroad.

Nobody is arguing against stopping this madness, but you're white washing history by making Hamas out to be the victim here. Fuck Hamas, they don't care about Palestinians. Neither do Arabs or Muslims. Nobody despises Palestinians more than other Arabs. You're being used to Stoke outrage. You're pushing their propaganda that Hamas was a peaceful organization just minding it's business

Have you even heard of Yasser Arafat or the history of the region? It's like you kids just tuned in to the latest episode and made your decisions about who the bad and good are. All, EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR of Hamas resources go to rockets to shoot at schools and towards their own goals of ethnic cleansing. But you weren't being told to be outraged for the last 6 decades, so you didn't give a fuck till Instagram told you to.

Even if I say there are no good guys in charge in this conflict, I get dowvoted. Because you can't accept that Hamas is bad, you just can't.

You realize this shit has been going on for like 7 decades right? Nyt debunked all of it? No they didn't

So you're saying they're good guys? Say it

Pretty much. These are the same college kids who like to tell me what should be offensive to me as a Latino. They don't realize that them jumping in to defend me against invisible discrimination, is their own form of white supremacy and colonialist attitude. "this brown person should be offended at that man wearing a sombrero, and only I a young educated white kid can defend him!"

I've been saying it for years. Zoomers are dumb. We have statistics to prove it. For years, people have been saying "oh gen z is so accepting, so progressive". Yeah but that doesn't matter because they're stupid and stupid = easily manipulated.