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My friend didn't have a great experience with Linux

I have been daily driving Linux for over two years now and I have switched distros many times. So, when my friend bought a new laptop, I convinced him to install Linux Mint on it. I asked him if he wanted to dual boot, he said no because it would fill up all his storage. We installed Linux Mint. The other day, he wanted to play FIFA 17 on his computer. After 5 whole hours of troubleshooting we were able to get FIFA running smoothly with some issues. Next, he wanted to play Roblox. I guided him through the process of installing Waydroid and libhoudini, only to discover that Roblox would run at 10 FPS. With Minecraft, it wasn't any better. It took us 1 hour to get it working (not skill issue, he wanted to play cracked through Prism Launcher). Now, he wants to go back to Windows 10. I have already told him about dual boot, but he has only 256GB of storage and he wants to play a lot of games. What should I do? Install Windows to his laptop, install some other Linux distro, or try to convince him more about dual boot? Thanks in advance and sorry for the essay.

UPDATE: Of course I will help him install Windows on his computer if he wants so, I don't want to force him to use Linux after all. I just wanted him to give it a try, and maybe daily drive it, if he can.

EDIT: Because for some reason it was misunderstood, let me clarify it here. Roblox ran with poor performance on Waydroid, not Minecraft. I just said that the installation of Prism Launcher cracked was difficult. After that, Minecraft ran smoothly without any problems.

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  • You skipped a few steps. Before you install Linux for your friend, you should first ask him what he uses the PC for, and if he plays games, what games does he play.

  • He obviously wants to use only proprietary Windows Software.

    There is little reason to force him to use Linux. Of course Linux may have less overall tracking, annoying behaviors, better performance etc.

    Win10 will be EOL veeery soon. Win11 is really bad on old hardware.

    I second uBlue Bazzite and ProtonDB, check what you run first.

    Respect that you even came that far lol.

  • The problem is mate is that not all games have native Linux versions, If FIFA 17 were on steam, you could use proton on it but I believe it isn't.

    It just comes with the territory of Linux that some games are windows only and can be finicky.

    Minecraft however, should run fine on potato machines and with Linux, should have a native port you can install from say Flatpak.

    When moving to the penguin train, he needs to write down what software and games he wants to use, and what might be omitted due to compatibility issues.

    If the man wants to use Windows, let him be, he might reconsider in future about trying Mint again or another distro like Kubuntu.

  • Roblox in particular has been super hostile to the Linux community, they've two or three times now intentionally changed their application to make it so it won't run under wine. If Roblox is something that is a hard requirement for him, I would highly recommend against any of the non-windows derivatives. The lead development team on Roblox seems to have the ideology that anything that isn't Windows is a hacker platform and therefore they attempt to remove access from those platforms wherever possible. I don't personally agree with it but, it is what it is.

    I also wish people would stop blindly recommending Unix platforms as a drop-in replacement for gaming on Windows. I have yet to see anyone who has been able to just install any of the flavors and have it "just work". I fully agree that we are ages better in terms of compatibility than it was even 5 years ago, but at 100% should be going into it as a "you will have issues prepare to have to troubleshoot" and if this was his first time using anything not windows, I would have hard recommended against nuking the windows install, at the very least shrink the C partition on Windows which can be done via GParted, which thankfully is already pre-installed on the Linux Mint installation media.

    It's disappointing that he is looking to go back, but I can fully understand his frustration, as someone who's recently retaking the plunge after 6 or 7 years of being on windows again, I find myself getting aggravated at times trying to make hack scripts to make things work as well.

    That being said, if he is wanting to go back you shouldn't force using it, that's only going to remove the possibility of him switching back in the future(like when MS makes w10 a subscription model either end of this year or the year after which will force w11)

  • If they want to game, can't commit to only playing steam games, and can't learn how to use lutris, have them stay on windows. Linux will never live up to their expectations.

  • Don't tell him to dual boot. He wants Windows don't shove Linux down throat. Honestly he probably shouldn't of been using to begin with. I'm not sure why you would pressure him so hard.

  • if hes willing try zorinos. If that does not work I know of nothing easier. It comes with play on linux pretty well configured.

  • I think the best course would be to tell him something along the lines of "I'm sorry these games didn't work out well for you and the experience didn't turn out to be good for you, there's still the option to dual-boot or try a different distro if you want but I understand if you don't. Just know that these issues aren't specifically because of Linux but rather poor support from the game's devs, or more likely their publishers, games (about 90% of them) work fine through steam or Lutris unless the devs implement anti-cheats without linux compatibility so hopefully in the future if you happen to play more steam games you'd consider giving Linux another chance." nonetheless I'd still say he should go on windows, find out that his games will likely still run like shit on there on his own and if he complains about it maybe bring up Linux again, gently and appropriately of course.

  • I swear it's always the same mistake each time someone has an issue trying linux. It should be a rule at this point : never switch to another OS without knowing what will work and what will not.

    Going at it blindly is a quick way to get overwhelmed and discouraged.

    (Not pointing fingers here, had a friend who wanted to try it out too, didn't listen to my warnings, didn't wanna check if everything would work out and then spent three month of pure hell, with me picking up the pieces and fixing their pc all the god damn time..)

  • Aren't Roblox and old Minecraft rather efficient? FIFA 17 sounds like it's from 2017. To me it sounds like mostly old games so without the specs of the laptop which don't sound good with 256gb of storage I can't really judge whether 10fps in newer Minecraft versions isn't perhaps to be expected. Minecraft has always run the best on my machine (compared to most steam games which are more finicky when it comes to drivers. Btw for me fixing drivers it's usually just switching between the ones on flatpak and arch whenever it doesn't work and worst case I do a downgrade until it's fixed.)

    Would it be worth testing the vanilla Minecraft launcher to see if that's the problem, perhaps compare the launch options if it's not possible? (I completely get not liking what Microsoft is doing with the launcher and I'm looking for an alternative at this point as well.)

    It's possible that the laptop has an old/niche graphics card with bad driver support, which will probably be worse to try to fix on windows, unless they already know how to use the manufacturers likely gui based weird custom installer already (I think that's how Nvidia does it and of course it has ads).

    Personally my experience on windows has been a nightmare with it breaking itself more often than Linux (while being used a fraction of the time or probably slightly more if I count the time spent on my old laptop which had slightly fewer issues). Luckily I don't have to use it but I do have a windows install in dual boot which takes 3x longer to start, shows me ads, requires me to plug the mouse in after booting for it to work.

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