I hope this isn't too hot of a take, but I don't like the "No True Scotsman" approach to TERFs.
I hope this isn't too hot of a take, but I don't like the "No True Scotsman" approach to TERFs.
I see a lot of people say things like "TERFs aren't real feminists" or "We should call TERFs something besides feminists," and I understand where this viewpoint comes from, but as a transfeminine person, I honestly don't like this approach.
I feel like when people utilize this approach, they're trying to see TERFs as a problem from the outside rather than a problem within. We cannot build a better, more inclusive, and more intersectional flavor of feminism if we assume that problematic tendencies such as transphobia are inherently beyond feminist thought.
Is TERF ideology flawed and misguided? Absolutely, 100%. Is it not feminist? On some level, I see why some would say it isn't, but at the very least, it's in the name of feminism. Although TERFs are incredibly sus with their hyperfocus on trans people, especially transfeminine people, and very minimal focus on actually advocating for women's rights, TERFs are not exactly stemming their transphobia from a viewpoint that conservative Christians, for instance, might stem their transphobia. Their viewpoint is tied to a certain interpretation of feminism, even if that interpretation sucks major doodoo ass.
We have to remember that even mainstream, liberal feminists are not exempt from some problems that TERFs embody. These kinds of feminists can often have transphobic and bioessentialist ideas as well. The difference? They are often more implicit and mask-on with these problematic tendencies. If they're not outright transphobic in their thinking, they, at the very least, tend to be very erasing of trans struggles, as they usually are with all other kinds of intersectionality. Their major issue with failing to grasp intersectionality is painfully obvious with how much they focus on white cishet women, failing to demonstrate that they don't even have a single place in their mind concerned about black women, trans women, and other more marginalized groups of women. I see these feminists as a problem obviously (because libs suck), but I certainly wouldn't say they're not feminists.
I'm functionally at a point where I can only trust feminists that are truly intersectional and communists, but unfortunately, I wouldn't say that outlook comprises most self-identified feminists. However, I wouldn't say that any feminist that deviates from the most helpful outlook on patriarchy isn't a feminist. They're just, in some way, a failed one in desperate need of education.
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I see a lot of people say things like "TERFs aren't real feminists" or "We should call TERFs something besides feminists," and I understand where this viewpoint comes from, but as a transfeminine person, I honestly don't like this approach.
That's the 'Masses, Elites, and Rebels' mentality that Roderick Day criticized, is it?
To make one's enemy fully 'alien' to themselves is part of that... (I agree on your point, Angel)...
This begs the question: why do they {the TERFs} believe the things they do?
This begs the question: why do they {the TERFs} believe the things they do?
Trans-exclusionary "radical" feminism is a form of bioessentialist feminism. That is to say, they believe what they do because they fall for the patriarchal hegemonic idea that "biological" sex is natural. Marxists like Cockshott who fall for it fail to properly apply dialectics to sex. To be fair, Marx, Engels, and Lenin also failed to do so, but they did apply it to the family correctly, which was pretty forward-thinking. You'd think 21st century Marxists would know better!
they fall for the patriarchal hegemonic idea that "biological" sex is natural.
They do fall for that, I know?
But what deeper stake and implication does it carry should biological sex be natural or not TO THEM anyway?
I'm sure this isn't a complete answer, but from what I've seen from TERF rhetoric, it seems to be basically "girls rule, boys drool". They need to believe that men and women are different so that they can easily split humanity into a very basic us vs them dichotomy, with themselves in the "good" group. I don't know why they want to make sex/gender the fundamental contradiction in their lives, it seems to me there are way more explanatory ways of looking at the world, but every single TERF argument seems to boil down to hating people they perceive as men and thinking the people they hate are biologically programmed to be evil.
But then they rarely take this idea to its logical conclusion, which would be cis-female only enclaves without any cis men or trans people present at all. Even the most rhetorically strident TERFs tend to have a cis man or two in their life who they don't seem to hate. And I have to admit I think that's odd. If someone truly in their heart of hearts believed that evil lived in the penis (or XY chromosomes or whatever), you'd think they would try harder to avoid people with those traits. You'd think genital inspections and maybe even chromosome tests would be a prerequisite to friendship with someone with that (incredibly shitty) belief.
I dunno, I do think hatred and disgust are at the root of TERF beliefs, but I don't think most TERFs really interrogate their own beliefs very much.
Yes, the logical conclusion is S.C.U.M. But in reality most "TERFs" ally with the patriarchy and are willing to sacrifice anything in order to punish trans women. So like, props to the couple hundred TERFs who are true believers in SCUM ig. Still hate you ofc
Far from it- The cornerstone of much of TERF theory is that, as they believe sex is entirely socially constructed and primarily used as a form of social control:
CW transphobic thought process
- As sex is (supposedly) entirely constructed, dysphoria is either not real or is entirely the product of social conditioning (This is incorrect as there is overwhelming evidence that sex is partially constructed and partially biological. Or, more accurately, aspects of sex are real biological traits but the binary as well as hierarchical and numerous psychological assumptions we make about it are incorrect and socially constructed)
- Therefore, they believe the only reason for someone to transition is as a form of either delusion caused by social abuse, as a form of appropriation of the other sex, or as a form of class traitorism. (This is, I believe, is why many of them hate transmasc people as well. It goes without saying they are incorrect and dysphoria is a scientifically proven phenomenon)
- Therefore trans women are just insert horrifically incorrect and twisted stereotype here.
at least this is how I read part of whipping girl. I may be wrong
I think we are both right... Points 2 and 3 are pretty much unanimous opinions that TERFs hold. Point 1 should be held by all, but is not because TERF as a category is overly broad. And then despite nominally believing in the social construction of sex, a lot of TERFs hold bioessentialist opinions simultaneously. Like if sex is a class then you can change sex but they also say you'll never be a woman. They have to hold these contradictory views because if they excised them then they'd end up with radical trans feminism. The issue with TERF ideology is that they're gender fascists and you should not take fascists' words at face value.
Most TERFs are just delusional Nazis, but the ones who are actively logically consistent are very insidious and as far as I can tell follow exactly what I just wrote here.
Yeah
I have not read this yet, but based on what I'm looking at, I'm gonna take this as a good recommendation. Thanks, comrade.