7mo ago

Don't make a mistake in choosing a distro

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For those who don't remember the original of this was an ancient meme:

Edit:
Just how old this meme is: OSX 10.9 mavericks was the first free mac update, it was released in 2013. The meme should be created before that. Iirc Windows 7 was the first win with forced and annoying updates, it was released in 2009. So this meme should be from that era, 11-15 years old.
Edit2:
I found the original post, my calculations were correct, this is from 2011: https://www.stickycomics.com/computer-update/
- I use linux and I'm in the Not Again boat. Seems like everytime I update, something goes wrong
  
  Use debian oldstable, usually 1-2 security updates each months, nothing else. If you need a newer app, install it as flatpak, they can't bork your system.
  
  what are you using?
  
  I was totally in the same boat just a decade ago.
- The comments on the original post are... interesting...
  
  DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS
  
  i'm surprised there's not a single slur in there
  
  Wow a real life ROFLCOPTER...
  Oh yep, and someone calling them a loser for saying it. Classic.
- Well, now they just make you throw out the old Mac hardware and buy new for $1299 (8gb RAM lol) because it's now out of support for the latest MacOS and the newest versions of Adobe Suite/MS Office/insert productivity work related proprietary software suite here is on board with Apple's bullshit and won't run on older MacOS versions.
  The more things change, the more they stay the same.
- I tried to install Win 10 in a VM recently and it spend hours updating after installing from the ISO. Also you have to turn off the internet to not create a Microsoft account? What a pain it is now.
  
  There are newer releases, obviously if you download an older build of windows, you have to download and install each updates manually. It's not a win only thing, it's the same with every os, e.g. download Ubuntu 16.10, it will take a while to upgrade to the current version. Windows 10 was released in 2015, I don't know which release you downloaded.
  About the account, the answer is OOBE\BYPASSNRO
  
  You need to update your ISO.

I thought I had a virus when I got a pop-up about Ubuntu pro. I thought all linux was free and there's no way I'd be getting ass for features I don't have
- no way I'd be getting ass for features I don't have
  Not with that attitude
- Ubuntu pro is completely free for non-commercial users tho
- Dude, you chose the wrong way.

What are the distros that would align with these categories?
Cool, more free stuff:
Not again!
Ooh, only Ubuntu pro:
Ubuntu
- 1st: Fedora
  2nd: Arch
  Debian would be: "nothing changed!" (with a sad or happy guy depending on use case)
  
  With Debian it's more like "cool, everything still works as expected."
  Source: I don't use Arch btw.
  
  Your arch system would probably have updates unless you just updated within the last few minutes. Being suprised seems a bit unnecessary.
  
  If you're on Arch, then you want those tasty hourly updates om nom nom
  source: I use Arch btw
- I don't think the first two are distro specific, more a question of mindset. Unless there are distros that force update your system like some other OSs, which could cause the second picture to happen more often.
  
  On fedora atomic all updates are automatic. I don't even see that they happen. They just happen in the background. I love it.
- The first could be any decent distro like Debian, Fedora, Mint.
  The second would probably be rolling release because of the amount of packages lmao.
- I was thinking that the user intentionally chose their distro, because of the Ubuntu character.
  Cool, more free stuff
  Arch, you want more free stuff faster
  Not again!
  Debian, you want to set and forget, so any updates that do come up are still a nuisance
- Arch
  Arch
  Ubuntu Pro

sudo pacman -Syu Cool, more free stuff! Fresh as a morning breeze.
- Running rm -rf / afterwards because of minimalism
  
  Tee hee

(probably the most downvoted post i've made yet on lemmy 😂)

Make all the mistakes you want to. There's a lesson under every leaf in this world.

Ubuntu pro is free to enable btw
unless you're using ub server for commercial purposes, then you're breaking the agreement
- What? How?

You mean a free Ubuntu pro account for personal use?
- b-but that requires signing up. too much effort 😅
- I think it looks like Microsoft is requesting a ms account to use/install Windows, I think it's weird to request registration for non-commercial users
  
  happy cake day
- If you're not paying for the product, then you're the product.
  (I don't believe the above quote to be absolutely true, but I'm not sure what motivation Canonical could have to lock some features of the OS behind a free account except $$$.)
  
  If you're not paying for the support, then you are the support.
  
  Canonical already maintains security patches for paying customers so they aren't actually doing any extra work, but putting it behind a subscription gives them an option to start charging more for desktops, gives clear cost for server use, and maybe is marketing for "look at the premium work we do".
  
  It you are a business then you pay for the product.
  
  I'm not paying for Lemmy.

$ nixos-rebuild switch --use-remote-sudo --flake ~/dotfiles#desktop
😎😎😎
- Hm, I want to pull the trigger on nixos
  
  If you're not using a standard DE (Gnome, KDE,...) but rather something like i3, Hyprland,... then I highly recommend starting with home-manager on whatever distro you're currently on. Once you're happy with that setup, it's really easy to add the "rest of the system" without risking a giant headache because your desktop still needs to be configured
  
  I'd be willing to help you get started.
- Isn't the --remote-host missing here? (Since you're using --remote-sudo?)

I'm an annoyed fedora user and it seems every day there's an update that requires reboot to install. I want the latest patches to keep the system secure, but this is annoying, and I use 2 laptops.
- sudo dnf up
  Works for me.
  
  Sorry, that will forever be Did Not Finish for me. 😣
  
  Thanks, i might start using that so i can continue work while it's installing. Even if I'm going to reboot later, i won't have to wait for it to install before using the system.
  
  While that works, it sometimes might break things: https://fedoramagazine.org/offline-updates-and-fedora-35/
  
  You need to "sudo dnf clean all" first to make sure you get the freshest index!
- You can change that in system settings on KDE
  System settings -> Software Update -> Apply system updates immediately
  Not sure if it's the same on GNOME
  
  No, there is not. Updating through terminal still bypasses it and I don't mind so much seeing how my mother might accidentally power it off in the middle an important update otherwise. Most people know not to hit the power button when the scary load bar pops up with a message saying please do not power off system.
- Yeah, I'm using Fedora KDE and Budgie on a laptop and mini-desktop. There were a boatload of updates over the weekend. I understand the safety of doing a reboot to be up to date, but it does give me flashbacks to Wondows.
  But, you can use sudo dnf upgrade and only need to reboot when you want to. Updating through Discover tends to make you reboot a lot.
- I disabled it on day 2 in fedora KDE spin

What does Ubuntu Pro get you besides extended support after the normal OS EOL?
- Access to "real time" kernel which is useful for drones etc.
- Kernel live patch, security updates for packages that canonical doesn't own/maintain, and access to certain configurations/options like fips
- Extended compliance support. Enterprise level needs require a lot of paperwork just to make sure you are in legal compliance with all rules and regulations. The paperwork alone can be a very heavy costly burden on the IT department.
  Any distro wanting to be serious in the enterprise space needs to offer support for that. And businesses will pay for it because it's cheaper than having a large staff only dedicated to it. It's part of how Ubuntu can offer you the free stuff and remain a top used distro for the masses. RedHat does the same. RedHat just rebrands the free stuff as Fedora. At least Ubuntu doesn't hide behind a different brand name when offering sercives they charge for.
  
  ...Debian. The free stuff is called Debian.

Fedora/Arch/Ubuntu
- Obviously you've never used Arch btw. We live for the sudo pacman -Syu.
  
  there is something very satisfying about running pacman -Syu at the end of the day and watching it update the repos, give you a neat list of packages to be upgraded, then see them downloading over all your threads with that little chomp chomp pacman animation, disappearing one by one, or a bunch at once, and then at the end it runs the hooks and you see that [1/23] fill up all the way to [23/23] in the span of a minute...
  It's like popping bubble wrap, but you have 8 hands and 8 bubble sheets and never try to pop the tame bubble twice
  
  You could also live for yay -Syu
- I'll sometimes even run pacman -Syu right after updating. It works surprisingly often.

yay! :)

Im in the middle, 4 times a day 😂 what distro?
- Btw
  
  Ohh 🤣 yea, i meant the one on the left bot middle 🙈
  Updating my Linux is my main task on my Linux 😜 guess I have to look into kernel development

I've started to become 2) for some stupid reason.
I use btrfs snapshots to backup my system, and it has the side cost of needing a bit extra space. This is absolutely fine.
What is not fine however is free desktop/Nvidia flatpaks update. I get 10gb every week, and it keeps filling my disk with this stupid crap.
Not only that I am both a rust programmer and blender artist, and it's the trinity of non deduped disk space filler
- Maybe it is a Nvidia thing

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