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  • Still use and like my two LG devices, will be sad to see high-end audio and SD cards be even further reduced in mobile choices.

    If Linux mobile devices software does well this year perhaps it'll be an OK time to make a switch, though I'll find something else to fill the audio niche.

  • Do you really want Linux phones?
  • Just chiming in a bit late, the other recommendations of Ubuntu Touch and/or Fairphone + donating are great ideas.

    I cant get a Fairphone as they don't work well in the USA, and when the major carriers sunset their 2G/3G might not work at all - I've considered using one on WiFi only but don't know how well that will work yet.

    That's also my reservation on buying another device for Ubuntu Touch as well, and VoLTE is device specific - the PinePhone having VoLTE solves that for me.

    I'd also recommend to report bugs and the like actively if you have the time, providing good examples helps iron things out for other users and the maintainers.

  • Do you really want Linux phones?
  • I think the interest isn't from the intended audience, but rather from those looking for ANY alternative to Google/Apple and have bene told by various sources that one of these "Linux phones" respects their privacy or doesn't block apps based on politics.

    I feel that middle points such as LineageOS or /e/os aren't discussed in the same manner, and for various reasons arent looked at in the same light as a "Linux phone."

    Given the above I find it to be no surprise that many (the majority) of PinePhone buyers/fans/onlookers have no interest or skill to improve the device or service: they're here because they're fedup by some part of the current status quo and don't want to wait for a more mature offering (which by the way would negate a lot of Martin's initial complaints).

    Speaking of, I'm assuming that something happened to set this post in motion, there's only so much one Dev can take afterall. But I don't have any answers, other than to point out that the devices keep selling out so people are putting their money where their mouth is - they (buyers) just cant back it up with continued support.

    I've seen the Android rom/APk asks, and it puzzles me too. But then I remember that most are looking for some form of privacy, even if the data in the end still goes to the same place they'll feel better that the "phone isn't from Google" and don't care if Linux was the focus of the device they're interested in.

    His features vs stability comments also fit this perspective imo, there is a "baseline" that a lot of buyers comer into the project expecting and would rather see it met than to have work be finished or have things done in a replicatable manner. I started to write more on this but on second thought feel that if upstream ability(?) was kept at the fore then having so many releases would be less of an issue.

    Taken as a whole it's a good post even if I don't necessarily agree with the cut of its jibe, I suppose we (device owners) can only try to do better/help in what manner is able to us.

    Side note: the Librem 5 vs PinePhone fight was inevitable, I agree that both need/use the other even if I have a hard dislike for Purisms marketing and word choice in some of their material.

  • Would you want a killswitch for the fingerprint scanner PinePhone is developing?
  • Considering the scanner is simply attached to the back cover and is swappable a switch could be designed but there would need to be a revision of the hardware first.

    I think the Librem switches make more sense on a day to day basis, but the lack of a switch for the scanner wouldnt matter to me in the slightest (nor does the current lack of a scanner on either device).

  • So Protonmail / ProtonVPN is not a good option?
  • I'd argue that this:

    Basically they sell you the peace of mind, not really any actual security as far as anyone can tell.

    Is demonstrably false, as their encryption methods for emails at rest as well as other options (PGP) are tested. They're also upfront with their threat protection model ("the ProtonMail threat model document specifically states that, “we cannot guarantee your safety against a powerful adversary.”) and as far as coming from Google or another free provider is concerned are a definitive step in the right direction. A good overview if OP is interested is this writeup here: https://www.techspot.com/news/82776-protonmail-review-secure-email-really-secure.html

    Personally I'd be hesitant to recommend self-hosting email unless really necessary (since that has it's own risks/threat model) and think OP would do well to start off with Tutanota or Protonmail.

    As an aside if we're alluding to Protonmail being a honey pot with the Hong Kong riots I'd rather see it stated as such; this is the second place on Lemmy I've seen such criticism levied when a company that has a privacy/security based product and did a statement on the protests and I don't find it that suspect that they would be interested in furthering their brand or "putting their money where their mouth is" by coming out in support of anti-censorship/CCP measures.

  • December Update: The Longest One Yet | PINE64
    www.pine64.org December Update: The Longest One Yet | PINE64

    In the last Community Update of the year we look back at 2020, talk about the PinePhone keyboard, introduce the PinePower and much more.

    December Update: The Longest One Yet | PINE64

    TL;DR for this month’s update

    • RK3566 boards available to developers next month; more info in January
    • Community page (.org) getting a make-over & chat bridge will be worked on over the holidays.
    • An apology to early KDE CE pre-orders who received refunds and an explanation of what happened
    • A word about retail stores coming early next year
    • Look back at 2020 – our shortcomings and accomplishments discussed
    • PineTime – classy analogue watch faces available for InfiniTime
    • PineTime – InfiniTime receives many fixes including wake-up time, battery readout and call notifications
    • PineTime – new WaspOS version has been released
    • PineTime – Amazefish companion app now runs on multiple distros, including KDE Plasma Mobile; you can now sync your PineTime to the * PinePhone running Manjaro KDE & more!
    • Pinebook Pro – production resumes after Chinese New Year, late February/ early March 2021
    • Pinebook Pro – is now supported by official Debian Installer (Alpha 3)
    • Pinebook Pro – the Docking Deck receives a warm response from end-users and reviewers
    • PinePhone – software and firmware news: Megi’s 5.10 kernel and new firmware for the modem result in improved power management + thermals
    • PinePhone – Megapixels camera app now supports smooth 30FPS viewfinder; works on multiple mobile UIs.
    • PinePhone – We signed a contract for a PSION5-like keyboard with a specialized vendor(!); developers will receive keyboards already in January 2021
    • PinePhone – Qi charging back case entered production (molding process)
    • PinePhone – We’re working on a fingerprint reader back case with a community member who created a working prototype
    • PinePhone – showcase of awesome PinePhone hacks and DIY projects
    • PinePower – a range of power supplies (PSUs) for PINE64 products coming soon
    • PinePower – portable 65W GaN PSU due in late Jan/ early Feb and a 120W desktop PSU coming later in 2021
    • PineCube – we now have Armbian support (Debian & Ubuntu) for the PineCube
    • PineCube – we created a case for the PineCube and released STL files for it
    • Pinecil – initial batch sold out incredibly fast, more units are being produced for January 2021
    • Nutcracker Challenge – more evaluation boards shipped
    • Nutcracker Challenge – we’re getting more source code soon & early community developed flashing tools now available
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    First Impressions of the FINAL LIBREM 5 HARDWARE

    Checkout @TheLinuxGamer's impressions (far from an extensive review however) on the "final" hardware of the Librem 5 - it's nice to have a video instead of a Purism forum post to read. Unsure if this is his own unit due from backing or if Purism sent him the device (he mentions it's a review device im the video so I assume the latter?) but nice to see either way.

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    Pine Store Community Pricing & Online Retail Stores | PINE64
    www.pine64.org Pine Store Community Pricing & Online Retail Stores | PINE64

    In 2021 you’ll see online retail Pine stores open in Europe, North America and possibly also worldwide at a later stage. Let me start by making one thing clear – the current Pine Store isn’t going…

    Pine Store Community Pricing & Online Retail Stores | PINE64

    More updates in January, but the gist is there will be a online retail presence (North America and Europe were both mentioned) complete with support options like RMA but at an increased cost; the PineStore will still have the same (lower) prices we're used to.

    Edited: Said USA instead of North America

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