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This is why you gotta test your stashed drives yearly. This drive surface was already having issues after just one year
  • My average cost per usable TB is around $11 per TB, but most of my drives are smaller used SATA/SAS drives. My main pools come out to about 450TB of usable storage.

    Edit, Copy paste from the post I never got around to making.

    Main Pools 2023, are on 24/7/365 - 360-420 Watts.

    I use 3 UPS units to protect them.

    Name | Usable TB | ZFS | vdev | Drives per vdev | Drive size |Estimated total cost|Content|Notes| ---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|---- Main | 65.90TB | RAIDz2 | 1 | 8 | 12TB |$960| Content | New drives | Main | 76.50TB | RAIDz2 | 1 | 8 | 14TB |$1200| Content | New drives | Main | 87.86TB | RAIDz2 | 1 | 8 | 16TB |$1120| Content | reconditioned drives | Backup0 | 176.91TB | RAIDz2 | 2 | 12 | 10TB |$1500| Backup | used + new drives | Temp0 | 12TB | EXT4 | 1 | 1 | 12TB |$120| Temp | new drive |

    Main pool - 261.26TB, This is all 1 pool, but I broke it up on the list since I use 3 different drive sizes.

    Total usable TB : 450.17TB

    Total Cost : $4900 / 450.17TB = $10.89 per usable TB, not bad considering the amount of drives were purchased new.

  • This is why you gotta test your stashed drives yearly. This drive surface was already having issues after just one year
  • I use a few hundred drives as cold storage backup pools and I try to get to them twice a year but I always test them at least once a year. I lose 2-3 drives every year. Since they are mostly smaller 750GB to 4TB drives in 12x driver RAIDz2 pools it is not really that bad and I have never lost data yet.

  • What is your test method for new HDDs before adding to array?
  • Here is my over the top method.

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    My Testing methodology

    This is something I developed to stress both new and used drives so that if there are any issues they will appear.
    Testing can take anywhere from 4-7 days depending on hardware. I have a dedicated testing server setup.

    I use a server with ECC RAM installed, but if your RAM has been tested with MemTest86+ then your are probably fine.

    1. SMART Test, check stats

    smartctl -i /dev/sdxx

    smartctl -A /dev/sdxx

    smartctl -t long /dev/sdxx

    1. BadBlocks -This is a complete write and read test, will destroy all data on the drive

    badblocks -b 4096 -c 65535 -wsv /dev/sdxx > $disk.log

    1. Real world surface testing, Format to ZFS -Yes you want compression on, I have found checksum errors, that having compression off would have missed. (I noticed it completely by accident. I had a drive that would produce checksum errors when it was in a pool. So I pulled and ran my test without compression on. It passed just fine. I would put it back into the pool and errors would appear again. The pool had compression on. So I pulled the drive re ran my test with compression on. And checksum errors. I have asked about. No one knows why this happens but it does. This may have been a bug in early versions of ZOL that is no longer present.)

    zpool create -f -o ashift=12 -O logbias=throughput -O compress=lz4 -O dedup=off -O atime=off -O xattr=sa TESTR001 /dev/sdxx

    zpool export TESTR001

    sudo zpool import -d /dev/disk/by-id TESTR001

    sudo chmod -R ugo+rw /TESTR001

    1. Fill Test using F3 + 5) ZFS Scrub to check any Read, Write, Checksum errors.

    sudo f3write /TESTR001 && f3read /TESTR001 && zpool scrub TESTR001

    If everything passes, drive goes into my good pile, if something fails, I contact the seller, to get a partial refund for the drive or a return label to send it back. I record the wwn numbers and serial of each drive, and a copy of any test notes

    8TB wwn-0x5000cca03bac1768 -Failed, 26 -Read errors, non recoverable, drive is unsafe to use.

    8TB wwn-0x5000cca03bd38ca8 -Failed, CheckSum Errors, possible recoverable, drive use is not recommend.

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