How on earth does it take that long and why did they need the ref to have a look. Maguire is clearly offside and makes himself active by going for the ball. This was much more offside than the Bruno goal against City last season
Wonder if Rashford is being punished for the party?
Edit: Nope, injured in training yesterday apparently
Sigh, that's me done for tonight. What a disappointment we are
I'll never forget the first 30 minutes under Rangnick against Palace, we looked the best I'd seen us in years. Then we just never saw it again, it like they all thought "ooh that was a bit tough lads, let's not bother doing that again"
Absolutely agree. Players have proven time and time again they just down tools when they don't like a manager. I don't think he will get the sack, but the shitrags and talkSPORT will all be calling for it
Close enough. Would've liked to have seen the "starting strong" part though
What I'd give for this now
Maddening isn't it? My local semi-pro side put more effort in than this lot when things get tough
Hi all - just a quick one from me. I have made the decision to step down from moderating the community. I started up this community as an alternative to the subreddit not really expecting it to do much - now we have over 800 members and some great regular content posters. I know I just won't have the time to keep on top of things, even over the last couple of weeks I've barely had time to pop my head in.
I leave the community in the very capable hands of @Skyraptor7@lemmy.world - thank you all so much for your contributions over the last few months. I will be sure to keep contributing where I can!
GGMU
Fuck the Glazers
Morocco international Sofyan signs for the Reds, subject to international clearance and registration requirements.
The Northern Ireland defender has joined the club on a one-year contract.
Was out today watching my local team snatch a draw from the jaws of victory, coming home to this is quite disappointing
Would prefer Garnacho coming off the bench tbh, didn't seem great the other night, hopefully it was just a one off and he proves me wrong!
|! | VS. | !| | :-: | :-: | :-: | |Manchester United | - | Spurs| | Match Time: | | 16:30 UTC| ||Lineups|| |Onana, Wan-Bissaka, Varane, Martinez, Shaw, Casemiro, Mount, Fernandes, Antony, Garnacho, Rashford| |Vicario, Porto, Van de Ven, Romero, Udogie, Sarr, Bissouma, Kulusevski, Maddison, Son, Richarlison|
This thread will be pinned all day and then a new Match Thread will be posted in time for kickoff. GGMU!
The tin foil hat in me thinks they're leaking all this to make people not care when they announce they aren't gonna be selling.
Obviously not what they're doing as they aren't capable of thinking of anything that can't be demonstrated with crayons. Do get the feeling they're not gonna sell though
Full Tweet:
Really disappointed at how United have handled this. They should be focused on making the correct decision, speaking up in support of victims of domestic abuse & sexual assault, and acting with integrity. The club must realise this isn’t a PR crisis it’s about doing what’s right.
May do the same here to be honest if people are happy with that. Definitely need less of that bullshit
Fair play to Crafton, he's really coming after them and good on him. Club needs to be held accountable for shit like this
The Athletic reveals more details of United's plan to bring back Greenwood, which has sparked crisis meetings and unrest at the club
Excerpts from the article:
Manchester United’s plan to bring back Mason Greenwood was so advanced that the club even prepared documents outlining the type of images that should be taken of the player during training sessions and planned how manager Erik ten Hag should handle questions during an anticipated media storm.
According to sources with knowledge of United’s planning, who remain anonymous because they are not authorised to speak publicly, the club’s preparations for Greenwood’s return also included an assessment of the expected sentiment of external figures, listing individual football pundits, journalists and politicians and stating whether they would be for or against Greenwood’s reintegration. The planning divided these people into categories to the effect of “supportive”, “open-minded” or “hostile”. The club’s document listed a series of domestic abuse charities assumed to be “hostile”.
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Earlier this week, United said in a statement that “the welfare and perspective of the alleged victim has been central to the club’s inquiries”. United’s process was led by Arnold, assisted by the club’s legal counsel Patrick Stewart, communications chief Ellie Norman, football director John Murtough and the chief operating officer, Collette Roche.
The internal process has not consulted any charities specialised in supporting women in cases where alleged domestic or sexual abuse has occurred.
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The Athletic’s reporting of United’s intentions on Wednesday has triggered a significant backlash on social media from football supporters who are opposed to Greenwood’s return and the club’s sentiment trackers, which monitor supporter feeling online, have plummeted in recent days.
On Thursday, the prominent British television presenter Rachel Riley warned she would not continue to support the club if Greenwood returned and her social media posts were sent between staff members at the club.
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The Athletic has also been told by sources close to the club, who will remain anonymous in order to protect their positions, that senior Manchester United executives held multiple intense meetings with staff after we reported on Wednesday that some employees feel ashamed by the club’s decision. Some staff members have discussed resigning in the event United continue to pursue the plan laid out by Arnold, while others have considered coordinated action, with some staff even exploring a strike.
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The most extreme measures, however, remain hypothetical until the club formally communicates a decision, while it is also the reality of a situation such as this that aggrieved employees are more likely to speak to journalists than those who are either on the fence or supportive of the decision.
United’s concern on Thursday and Friday, however, was sufficient for crisis meetings to take place, which involved United executives seeking to justify a return for Greenwood to staff, while also claiming no final decision had been made. Many staff were left with the impression, though, that the plan to bring him back remains.
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The plan to stage-manage Greenwood’s return went to the lengths of detailing the type of training images that should be taken of Greenwood and how they should be transmitted on club channels. The plan also included the possibility of Greenwood himself doing an extended interview in a few months’ time, once he has bedded back into the club. The medium — whether in-house or via an external broadcaster — of the interview is not clear.
United’s planning for Greenwood’s return also contains extensive ongoing psychological and physical support, which includes the player being offered a form of counselling or therapy.
A Manchester United spokesman said: “Manchester United has planned for various potential scenarios in relation to the future of Mason Greenwood. The Athletic has been leaked selective elements of one such scenario plan from several weeks ago. This is a difficult and sensitive case. It is entirely proper that we have taken a careful and thorough approach to planning for the various potential outcomes, including how we would engage with stakeholders and explain the decision after it is made. As previously stated, we are in the final stages of that process and will bring it to a conclusion as soon as possible.”
I heard the recording. I can never unhear that recording. I don't want anyone like that in or around my club
I was thinking that when I read this. This just shows why GN were right to do it, their follow up video was excellent too.
Fuck Linus. Fuck Mason
Full Thread:
"This morning, I approached Manchester United with a series of facts relating to their internal “process” on Mason Greenwood, which included the detail (undisputed by the club) that chief exec Arnold had told his executive team that the club was planning to bring Greenwood back.
As journalists, we provide right of reply to anyone we approach with a time period (deadline) in which they can respond. This is in the interests of balance and accuracy. And we did that today.
The usual protocol is that a responder would respond to the journalist first and foremost so any background or comment can be inserted into the story, to ensure balance and accuracy.
On this occasion, we were asked to extend our deadline so club could gather its response. Then, simultaneously, around 1545, the club issued a statement on its website, an all-staff email, and a press statement to all journalists who cover the club. And sent to us at same time.
As such, the only reasonable conclusion is that today’s United statement was unplanned and cobbled together as the club deliberated how to respond to our story. (Nobody plans to deliver a public statement at 3.45pm on a Wednesday afternoon)
Clearly, quite annoying personally, because it felt like an attempt to deflect from/bury our reporting, where we acted in entirely good faith with the club. But way more importantly, it was illustrative of United attempting to seize back narrative on increasingly strained process
Personal reading is United are unsettled & panicking that aspects of their choreographed plan made public and they are now witnessing a significant social backlash. I 100% stand by our reporting that Arnold told his exec team in 1st week August of plans to return Greenwood.
Of course, having abandoned their first proposed date (4th August), nothing has been announced, which gives the club plausible deniability on a “final decision”. After all, human beings can change their minds. (Likely reason for delay: wanting to brief women’s team still at WC)
But it is absolutely in the public interest for supporters of the club to know what has been going on in recent weeks, whatever happens next, and that’s why we reported this."
Based on the United statement, I think it's absolutely true unfortunately
Manchester United has conducted a thorough investigation into the allegations.
Following the dropping of all charges against Mason Greenwood in February 2023, Manchester United has conducted a thorough investigation into the allegations made against him. This has drawn on extensive evidence and context not in the public domain, and we have heard from numerous people with direct involvement or knowledge of the case.
Throughout this process, the welfare and perspective of the alleged victim has been central to the club’s inquiries, and we respect her right to lifelong anonymity.
We also have responsibilities to Mason as an employee, as a young person who has been with the club since the age of seven, and as a new father with a partner.
The fact-finding phase of our investigation is now complete, and we are in the final stages of making a decision on Mason’s future.
Contrary to media speculation, that decision has not yet been made and is currently the subject of intensive internal deliberation. Responsibility ultimately rests with the Chief Executive Officer.
Once made, the decision will be communicated and explained to the club’s internal and external stakeholders.
This has been a difficult case for everyone associated with Manchester United, and we understand the strong opinions it has provoked based on the partial evidence in the public domain. We ask for patience as we work through the final stages of this carefully considered process.
Full Tweet:
Exc: 🚨 Man United chief executive Richard Arnold told the club’s executive leadership team in first week of August that the club planned to bring back Mason Greenwood. The club then aborted scheduled announcement for August 4. Details @TheAthleticFC
|! | VS. | !| | :-: | :-: | :-: | |Manchester United | 1 - 0 | Wolves| | Match Time: | | 19:00 UTC| ||Lineups|| |Onana, Wan-Bissaka, Varane, Martinez, Shaw, Casemiro, Mount, Fernandes, Antony, Garnacho, Rashford| |Sá, Semedo, Kilman, Dawson, Aït-Nouri, Nunes, João Gomes, Lemina, Neto, Sarabia, Cunha |
Match Events
| Time | Event Type | Event Description | | --- | --- | --- | |17|Yellow card| Strong challenge by Lisandro on Neto earns him a yellow| |27|Yellow card|Lemina gets a yellow for bringing down Garnacho| |35|Yellow card|Aït-Nouri booked for apparently time wasting| |44|Yellow card|Shaw goes into the book trying to get on a loose pass| |HT|United Sub|Lindelof replaces Lisandro| |63|Wolves Sub|Hwang replaces Sarabia| |67|United Subs|Sancho and Eriksen replace Garnacho and Mount| |69|Yellow card|Booking for Neto after remonstrating with the ref| |75|GOAL UNITED|Lovely ball over the top from Bruno to Wan-Bissaka who puts in a perfect cross for Varane to head home| |76|United Sub|Pellistri on for Antony| |76|Wolves Subs|Silva and Bueno replace Cunha and Aït-Nouri| |87|United Sub|McTominay on for Rashford| |87|Wolves Sub|Kalajdzic on for João Homes|
Onana, Wan-Bissaka, Varane, Martinez, Shaw, Casemiro, Mount, Fernandes, Antony, Garnacho, Rashford
|! | VS. | !| | :-: | :-: | :-: | |Manchester United | - | Wolves| | Match Time: | | 19:00 UTC| ||Lineups|| |Onana, Wan-Bissaka, Varane, Martinez, Shaw, Casemiro, Mount, Fernandes, Antony, Garnacho, Rashford| |Sá, Semedo, Kilman, Dawson, Aït-Nouri, Nunes, João Gomes, Lemina, Neto, Sarabia, Cunha |
It's finally here folks, first day of the season! This thread will be pinned all day and then a new Match Thread will be posted in time for kickoff. GGMU!
