that's the third time you've used that line in this thread alone, are you sure you aren't a bot, or are you providing the open and supportive environment that lemmy.world is known for and needs to protect at all costs

the person i replied to said that you cannot be anti-NATO and anti-Russia, that is what i was responding to

my sibling in christ you can look at the IMF loan document for Greece online for free. It states they needed funds to stay in NATO and the EU. Greece spent 7.5 billion on NATO contributions last year, that money doesn't come from nowhere

i don't know what you're talking about with poland, i never mentioned anything about blackmail and I don't think that

my language re: kosovo came from amnesty international. you can read their report here. nato used depleted uraniam weapons, cluster bombs, and indiscrimately murdered thousands of civilians, upwards of 5,000 in some counts though this report limits totals to the hundreds

i don't know what you're talking about with the genocide comment edit: oh you think because i criticized NATO bombing civilians, i'm pro-genocide. incredible

Greece had to take the IMF loans to continue being in NATO and the EU, that was part of the agreement

i don't know what you're talking about with Russian blackmailing, I was referring to the 00s expansions of NATO that violated the agreement between Russia/NATO to stop expanding

• bombing yugoslavia famously because Hillary Clinton requested the bombing and Bill relented that was the first time she talked to him in 8 months after the Lewinsky scandal
• bombing kosovo creating more death and destruction than the conflict had until that point
• funding stay behind missions in europe like Operation Gladio
• Hiring wehrmacht generals as 3 star NATO generals (Hans Speidel and Adolf Heusinger)
• economically crushing the poorer countries within the EU with loaded IMF loans

are weird ways to contain russia's ambitions

it's also really weird to refuse several offers of peace from russia in the last 20 years and instead march aggressively towards them, going back on every agreement back dating back to Yeltsin (really, further back than that but we're talking Russia post-USSR here). seems like those leftists might have something of a decent critique around an organisation doing those things since its inception

what? lmao you can absolutely be against NATO and not be hollering and hooting for Russia. This isn't a Marvel movie, you can have nuanced takes with what is a proxy world war decades in the making

yes, it's exactly like that, you're right damn got my ass

but if you're interested in why that's a literal cornerstone of leftist belief, i'm happy to talk about it or we can just keep making shit up on the internet for fun

this is a very cool thing to read on lemmy.world

that's like leftism 101 lmao, that's been the default position before Putin was even born

Genocidal? Really? Genocidal? You've seen people unironically calling for genocide on Hexbear?

Surely you could just block individual users that you find horrible instead of the admins blocking an instance of 20k users?

Defederation is happening based on Hexbear's potential comments and behavior when there are some absolutely unhinged lemmyworld comments in this very thread.

• Responding to hard hitting questions like "Have you read Karl Marx?" with "fuck off"
• Accusing anyone "defending" China or Russia of being paid by China and Russia ala the George Soros conspiracy weirdos
• Hexbears are all "nutjobs that justify terrorism"
• Being presented with a study showing a higher quality of life in socialist countries gets "you are full of shit and a fucking moron, get fucked" and "you lot are brain-dead" and "Do you practice being this stupid or does it come naturally" and "bootlickers"
• an incredibly racist remark about Chinese people "are not fucking yellow anyway" (link was borked and comments aren't working)

But it's Hexbear that "wants to be douches."