Our cities are literally on fire and literally anyone is pretending to give a shit about this virtue-signalling shite?

Let him cook

Facts don't care about your feelings.

despite islamic terrorism literally, by definition, being right wing.

It's neither right-wing nor left-wing. This sort of claim always strikes me as fairly cheap politics by people on the left. 'When people do bad things it's right-wing, when they do good things it's left-wing.' etc

The law only applies to people I disagree with.

I am definitely a person who should be taken seriously

_/s

I think bundling the two together obscures more than it illuminates. I don’t think it’s any less serious (in fact in some regards it’s more dangerous), just that it doesn’t fit with normal far-right characteristics. To take one important difference, the far-right are ultra-nationalists, while Islamic fundamentalists are strictly anti-nationalist – they don’t recognise the legitimacy of nation-states to exist at all. They also tend to be pretty unconcerned with race or ethnicity in themselves, whereas that’s obviously a major thing for Neo-Nazis and other Fascists. And it makes it harder to identify and address the problem, because the sources and drivers of far-right extremism are separate and often unrelated to the sources of Islamic fundamentalism and radicalisation.

Plenty of people are scared of the two assasinations of MPs by right wing lunatics.

One of them was a far-right lunatic, but the man who assassinated David Amess was a London-born radicalised Muslim affiliated with ISIL

There’s a lot of simmering anger, resentment and frustration in many communities in this country. It’s been building for years. The stabbing of those poor girls at their dance class by the son of Rwandan immigrants seems to have been the straw that broke the camel’s back.

This isn’t just the EDL (an organisation which disbanded more than a decade ago), this is thousands of English people who are furious. We can try and understand the sources of that fury, and then begin the work to resolve it, or we’ll keep getting these sorts of horrid outbreaks of ugly violence.

I haven’t tested out my opinion that ‘Church is good, actually’ to see how that one goes down here but I’m not expecting the result to be positive.

What an objectively stupid thing to say. Saying the Holocaust didn’t happen is denial, not comparing it to other shit.

https://www.economist.com/bagehots-notebook/2016/04/28/guest-post-why-comparing-israel-to-the-nazis-is-always-anti-semitic

https://fathomjournal.org/holocaust-inversion-and-contemporary-antisemitism/

https://muse.jhu.edu/article/720052

https://shura.shu.ac.uk/10260/3/Klaff_Holocaust_Inversion_and_contemporary_antisemitism.pdf

https://www.ajc.org/translatehate/Holocaust-denial

https://core.ac.uk/outputs/42540646/

https://pure.royalholloway.ac.uk/en/publications/holocaust-inversion-anti-zionism-and-british-neo-fascism-the-isra

The arrogance and confidence with which people like you speak about antisemitism, despite having never learned anything about it or thought even a second about it in a critical way, is astounding.

You don't understand Holocaust denialism or antisemitism and yet here you are proclaiming your moral righteousness!

At the point they’re publicly

Who is the 'they' speaking about non-Jewish children?

Yes it’s pretty clear they believe Palestinians are subhuman. And if that’s blood libel then so is saying Hitler believed Jews to be sub human

Holocaust inversion = Holocaust denial.

6 million Jews were slaughtered in the Holocaust.

6 million.

But clearly the right parallel here is the war in Gaza, begun by Iran/Hamas, but it's the Jewish state that's at fault.

And you're really confident that this time your attack against the Jewish state will be viewed favourably in the future.

Okay. Bold move.

Let's see how that works out for you, individually.

You can always find fringe groups. It's a bit pathetic to so openly signal that you know that's what you're doing. You've picked massively marginal, tiny and unimportant groups. It's really embarrassing for you man. I mean, really? Boston Review? C'mon man, grow up.

How many Jewish groups share your opinion that the Jews alone, among all the peoples of the world, have no right to national self-determination?

And I swear to fucking God if you add a Naturei Karta link, a group of less than 2,000 members globally, you will have problems.

Just to be clear then:

Are you claiming that the Jewish governing party, made up of Jewish individuals, in the Jewish State (Israel) are incapable of holding back their bloodlust to slaughter non-Jewish children on the basis that they see them as lesser than Jewish children?

Take a moment. Think about it. Because we both know that this is in fact what you have been claiming. And maybe you want to walk that back, and self-reflect, and think whether maybe you've gone wrong at some point in your justifiable attempt to seek justice for oppressed peoples.

Did you mean to reply to my comment? Not sure how that's relevant.

Anyway, you endorse a 1,500 year old antisemitic conspiracy theory, so I'm not sure why you think you deserve to be treated with respect or dignity.

I think we can all agree that the Jews and only the Jews have the right to determine what that phrase, which they coined, meant to them.

Everyone rational has always believed this.

By openly identifying your endorsement of an ancient and false antisemitic trope, you've invalidated your right to have any opinion about anything.

Bye.

Let me give you the full sentence:

"Never again will the Jewish people put their safety and security in the hands of non-Jews."

Non-Jews were given a test with the Holocaust and we comprehensively failed.

From now on, the Jewish people will only ever trust themselves to protect them. Rightly so, in my view.

And yes, I do deny there's a genocide in Gaza. If they wanted to just eradicate them then this war would have been over many months ago.

Aside from the points made so far:

Expect it to be overwhelmingly very left-wing and radically progressive on social values.

You will get downvoted for expressing opposing or even skeptical opinions, often brutally. It doesn't really matter, Lemmy's 'Karma' system doesn't work like Reddit's does, but just expect that.

My account is like 12 hours old but I was trying out Lemmy on other servers well over a year ago. Nothing about that has changed.

You might feel similarly to the majority and therefore you'll have no problem.

If you don't, eh, well. There we both are.

Also, yeah, post links and create subreddits about stuff you care about. These sorts of alternatives only live if people engage with them.

Antisemites have always believed this. This isn't new. The people who claimed Jews were intent on slaughtering non-Jewish children because they saw them as sub-human did also believe that wholeheartedly. It wasn't just a ruse.

If I believed that Israel was a genocidal "regime" (by which you mean democratic government) I wouldn't be defending it.