Xanza @ Xanza @lemm.ee

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The people that are most willing to help are generally the least likely to help, especially when it comes to content moderation.

Literally any uploader that requires an account to upload. Any one. Any provider that requires registration will be infinitely more compliant and well suited to deal with these issues than one that doesn't.

If there were a real issue, Patreon would send a real reply

They did send a real reply. Just because you can't and/or refuse to understand it doesn't mean someone messed up. I get that you're butthurt that your favorite place to upload shitty memes is in trouble, but it's their own fault and I refuse to feel sorry for them.

Usenet is older than torrenting. Significantly older. Even older than the WWW IIRC... Every few years the newer generation "discovers it" and realizes you can totally saturate your connection, even with relatively obscure things that would typically need a significant number of seeds to be able to do.

And then it falls to the wayside again, because retention times kinda suck as no one wants to keep petabytes of data for ultra-long term. That and most of the indexers still alive today fucking suck.

1. They have this issue.
2. They comply with the law.
3. Time goes on.
4. They have this issue.
5. They comply with the law.

What exactly are you confused about? The definition of continually? To be complaint with CSAM laws you have to actually make changes to your platform to ensure the same situation doesn't happen again. Catbox doesn't do that. They will eventually be prosecuted.

And my impression is Patreon said such handling was sufficient in 2021.

And it was. Because when pressed to make changes to ensure that it was more difficult to share CSAM, they refused. They were shutdown and then finally made the changes allowing them to operate again. In the same way that Catbox isn't doing anything to actually stop CSAM from being shared on their platform. Compliance with the law after you're caught with this type of content isn't enough. They will eventually all be arrested for "facilitating" CSAM just like any of those dark web forums are.

This is not only incorrect (this particular law doesn't apply here), but I can easily prove it beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Backpage was shutdown despite their willingness to comply with the law because they were found to "facilitate" CSAM. Omegle was also temporarily shutdown for the same reasons. There have also been quite literally dozens of prosecutions of website admins on the dark web for offering a platform for CSAM despite them arguing in court that they had no control over what their users uploaded and quickly moderated the content when discovered. In the end none of it matters--as a provider of a service you are required to make it difficult to share CSAM, not just comply with the law when someone catches you with your pants down.

It bedevils me that people are so laissez-faire about literal fucking CP--AI generated or not.

And in spite of literally all of that, none of this has anything to do with US law. It's Patron policy. They don't want to service someone who constantly has issues with CSAM, and they have every right not to offer their services to catbox.

Ultimately, yes, I think they are.

There's no opinion to be had. You are absolutely morally and legally responsible for what your users upload. Period.

Seems like you're completely missing my point. I'm not implying that catbox doesn't remove this content, or cooperate with authorities. I'm saying that Patreon chooses to not offer their services to projects which continually have this issue in the first place...

They're not hated. They're very fragmented and confusing for the layman.

The photos perfectly elaborate, though... They didn't really get screwed, someone uploaded "animated child sexual abuse photos." Which is not only illegal but against the TOS of Patreon. From the photos shared it looks like this isn't the first time it's happened, either, and Patreon clearly doesn't want anything to do with it--which frankly is their right.

Not really sure how this equates to them "being screwed." They're responsible for what people upload to their service (they clearly understand that) which is why public uploads like this without restriction aren't a great idea.

Also you can literally opt out of the data sharing

For now. It's always for now. You used to be able to opt out of Google data sharing too. And Reddit's. And Microsoft's. And Apple's. And your Credit Cards... The list goes on and on and on and on and on.

Soon as a large company realizes that they can vertically increase revenue by selling your data it ceases being an option. A realization that Plex will very soon learn because they've begun to sell data "optionally" for now. Then by next year, or maybe even the year after that it'll no longer be optional.

It always goes this way. Always. I can't even think of a single antithetical example.

That doesn't many any sense, because I just specifically told you that it doesn't matter to anyone but you whether or not you use Jellyfin... If it mattered to me, then yeah, sure. I'd be a zealot. But I don't give a shit what you personally use.

Also, pointing out the fact that Jellyfin is pretty indisputably better for people in this specific space isn't zealotry. It's just good common sense.

Mmmmm gross.

I'll leave you with this, though. Shit like this is all goalposts. For now it's just "their" content and not yours. But in 12 months it's gonna be all content. And what excuse will you make for them, then?

Not sure if you understand this or not, but you using, or not using jellyfin doesn't affect anyone but you. 🤷‍♂️

If you don't wanna use it, then don't use it. You're still wrong, but that's up to you lil buddy.

And that makes a difference to you?

Seeing the replies in this thread it kinda makes me wonder what Plex actually has to do for these zealots to quit using their platform.

Like do they literally have to steal naked pictures of you and pass them around the office? Like wtf.

Chromecast. Regular is cheap, and grab the 4K one if you wanna stream higher quality movies. Cost you less than $100.

You can set it up as a service to monitor a remote directory. I have it running using nssm on windows on my seedbox. I'll torrent something, give it a while and boom, it's on my NAS without doing anything.

Same concept here. So yeah, set it once, and forget about it.

Israel is like that guy that's super afraid of being seen as weak, so they pretend with all their might to be seen as an "alpha" just for it to be paper thin and for everyone to think they're a weak person.

rclone.