I just want to say a massive thank you to everyone contributing advice and thoughts here. There’s a lot to get through and I’m taking my it all in.
To those saying we should be charging for this, we hear you, you’re not the first to tell us. We’re looking into implementing that going forward and need to assess how we’ll tackle that for older clients.
I feel like this is a good point to assess our whole data infrastructure (live edits and archiving) and we’ll keep you all up to date once we decide on a direction. In the meantime keep the thoughts rolling in!
More random than I’d want. Generally predictable though.
Love this. Do you know who you use for your library licence?
Haha we’ve been this way for 12 years. Certainly not ideal if we scale. But we won’t ever. 4 of us ever needing access. And transferring over the network is not an issue. NAS is too slow for most real time editing. 10gbe is fine but still fairly slow. Those raids will soon be upgraded to SSD raids for each editor. Thanks tho…
Yeah we've got a solid situation for our live projects. Each of us work off 40TB thunderbolt raids with local external drives as our backup and live online backup to Dropbox.
This is for our archived work, but yeah of that, we access around 20-40TB fairly regualrly. Good to know that tape won't compress video data at all!
NAS is sounding more and more like our best bet.
Yeah sweet. I haven't checked in on the Slow Mo Guys storage setups in a while. I'll have a watch.
Agreed. But we're a relatively small business, so need a balanced cost. AWS is ~$10,000AUD/month for what we're after from memory.
Yeah we looked into it. But as subven1 pointed out, it's a brutal monthly cost.
Just copying from a response above:
This is only for archived projects. But we'd probably still need to access ~10-20TB of that data relatively regualry to update branding, or change edits, etc. Saying that, as mentioned in the OP, if we went tape or cloud, we'll likely have a physical local copy on an external hard drive for quicker access. We just need a redunant back up of these archives.
If we went NAS, I feel like maybe we could get away without the redundancy? Risky...
So I run a video production company. We have 300TB of archived projects (and growing daily).
Many years ago, our old solution for archiving was simply to dump old projects off onto an external drive, duplicate that, and have one drive at the office, one offsite elsewhere. This was ok, but not ideal. Relatively expensive per TB, and just a shit ton of physical drives.
A few years ago, we had an unlimited Google Drive and 1000/1000 fibre internet. So we moved to a system where we would drop a project onto an external drive, keep that offsite, and have a duplicate of it uploaded to Google Drive. This worked ok until we reached a hidden file number limit on Google Drive. Then they removed the unlimited sizing of Google Drive accounts completely. So that was a dead end.
So then we moved that system to Dropbox a couple of years ago, as they were offering an unlimited account. This was the perfect situation. Dropbox was feature rich, fast, integrated beautifully into finder/explorer and just a great solution all round. It meant it was easy to give clients access to old data directly if they needed, etc. Anyway, as you all know, that gravy train has come to an end recently, and we now have 12 months grace with out storage on there before we have to have this sorted back to another sytem.
Our options seem to be:
- Go back to our old system of duplicated external drives, with one living offsite. We'd need \~$7500AUD worth of new drives to duplicate what we currently have.
- Buy a couple of LTO-9 tape drives (2 offices in different cities) and keep one copy on an external drive and one copy on a tape archive. This would be \~$20000AUD of hardware upfront + media costs of \~$2000AUD (assuming we'd get maybe 30TB per tape on the 18TB raw LTO 9 tapes). So more expensive upfront but would maybe pay off eventually?
- Build a linustechtips style beast of a NAS. Raw drive cost would be similar to the external drives, but would have the advantage of being accessible remotely. Would then need to spend $5000-10000AUD on the actual hardware on top of the drives. Also have the problem of ever growing storage needs. This solution we could potentially not duplicate the data to external drives though and live with RAID as only form of redundancy...
- Another clour storage service? Anything fast and decent enough that comes at a reasonable cost?
Any advice here would be appreciated!