Hello,
This is a notice to all users that we uncovered potential issues with external XMPP providers federating with our instance. We verified our certificate using POSH initially, but it appears that not all providers guarantee this method as a means of validation, causing errors in server-to-server connection(s).
We have updated our certificate manually and all communications should be properly routed going forward. We apologize for any inconvenience.
(If you recently connected with us via XMPP, it is possible your message was not delivered accordingly. We kindly ask that you please resend/reissue prior messages if you have been awaiting a response. Thank you.)
Connor
Yes! Hi @marrow1@lemm.ee, I know I responded to you on our community page, but leaving our response here as well for future viewers: "There seems to have been some XMPP synchronization issues and I believe your message was affected. I will inquire with you directly via Lemmy’s messaging system."
Hey @marrow1, sorry about that! There seems to have been some XMPP synchronization issues and I believe your message was affected. I will inquire with you directly via Lemmy's messaging system.
Thank you @baz@monero.town! Will take your suggestion into account.
Got it, may do that in the future then, however for now will keep it here; we added a line as well on the Pricing page signaling only XMR is accepted, do you think that provides adequate clarity?
Thank you @jet@hackertalks.com! Really appreciative of you giving your time and laying out your thoughts.
I'll address your points one by one below:
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Ignoring that, let’s compare this to the standard I don’t want you to know where I live strategy: a post office box. Let’s say a streamer or some famous YouTuber who doesn’t want people to actually have their home address.
Anybody can send to a post office box, they just need the address. It’s not entirely clear, but your service would require both the sender and receiver to have an account and relationship with you.
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Correct, and I see your point. I think the main draw here is that currently our service is ephemeral, while a PO box is persistent. We do plan to add some persistent options for users in the future, but that's a discussion for another time.
Additionally, once agreed upon (i.e., within reason), we are willing to meet the Receiver wherever; whether it is at their home, a public brick-and-mortar—we are able to execute the final leg of the delivery on the Receiver's terms.
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The privacy conscious person cannot take packages directly home from the post office, they need to be scanned for trackers, air tags etc, or opened in a neutral location. Your service would send directly to a destination address, so a single air tag would destroy all privacy, unless the destination was a PO box, but at which point what is the customer benefiting from?
- We have thought about this, and I think this can always be a potential issue for the Receiver under any circumstance. It's preferable to have an established thread of trust between the Sender and Receiver, and if there is not, I would think the Receiver would meet in a public place and do exactly what you mentioned.
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I think it’s an interesting service, but I don’t see it working. The closest I would see it to is virtual post mail, or other virtual mailbox services. They scan mail when it comes in, and then email or reship that to another destination up to you. That’s kind of the privacy arbitrage layer. Otherwise there’s the post office boxes for people who want to receive without giving away their location.
If two people want to have a transaction without any third party knowing, shipping it via the post is always difficult. Labels are scanned at every office. And I think your service will quickly have tracking requirements put onto it, quite frankly your early adopters will almost certainly only be sending illegal material.
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Agreed, there are many unknowns regarding the post, and I appreciate your candidness.
As for remailers (I think virtual mailbox services are kind of a different animal altogether as far as privacy), the main benefits that make us stand out are (1) the ephemeral/persistence use case as touched on earlier, (2) the existence of relays, and (3) ensuring both the Sender and Receiver's privacy and security throughout the entire process from points A to Z.
Thanks again for taking the time and providing valuable feedback!
Thank you for the feedback! And that makes sense, I have received multiple comments on it being hard to understand what payment methods are accepted.
Target audience is privacy enthusiasts, and the pricing was/is a concern of ours. We ultimately want to decrease it as low as possible while in turn achieving more volume.
I really appreciate your time and sharing your thoughts, would you mind if I message you directly on some items?
Much appreciated for the feedback; anything illegal is against our terms of service:
Prohibited Items: Do not transport illegal, hazardous, or restricted items.
We are very much the same in regards to a VPN—routing, relaying, delivering, etc. packets from an origin to a destination.
Hi all,
I'm Connor, founder of Vessal, and wanted to (1) share with the group and (2) collect any feedback or suggestions you all may have.
Briefly, Vessal aims to make transportation private and secure. In some ways, it can be equated to a "VPN for transportation."
We are still relatively in our infancy, and therefore may be a little clunky sometimes as far as usability. Of course, we are always striving to improve!
Thanks for your time and taking a look, and again, we appreciate any feedback or suggestions you may have.
Connor
Hi everyone,
I'm Connor with Vessal, and we wanted to take a moment of your time to introduce ourselves.
To preface, Vessal's aim is to bring forth a suite of offerings centering around privacy and security for all modern-day practices—coined, "Liberatech."
Our first "offering" is Viae, our private and secure transportation arm. Think of Viae as a “VPN for transportation," which allows users to send or receive transports without having to disclose information to the opposite party.
For now, we are just launching throughout the main Texas metros: Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and Austin.
All in all, we would really appreciate you stopping by and checking us out, and please feel free to ask any questions. (Feedback is most welcome and encouraged!)
Connor