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Hello,

I've been using Voyager (iOS) for a while and it seems to be the only app still moving forward. The only feature I miss from other similar apps is being able to go back/forward by swiping on the bottom bar. Is this something we could get on Voyager too?

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[iOS] Sharing images as images

I searched and found a post on the issue from months ago, but it seems to not have gotten attention from the devs.

It's really annoying to open an image, try to share it somewhere else, see the share sheet showing the image's information.. Just to have the link to it shared instead of the actual image.

Can there be a setting to choose which behavior you want to have for this, please? I imagine thare are people who'd rather share the links, but I think it's a good compromise to have a setting for it.

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Avelon 1.0.8 - push notifications, lots of fixes, performance improvements, and some nice-to-have features!
  • The subscription list has not worked for me for a couple of days (since the app store version 1.0.7 if I recall correctly). I installed 1.0.8 and it persists. Restarted my phone a few times since I first saw the issue, even fully reinstalled from the app store (and re-setup everything manually...), nothing seems to fix it.

    Other apps are showing it just fine, so I think it's not my account or the instance.

  • Any updates?
  • Yes, I think Memmy had a revamp but I'm not sure of the details. I think it's still React, but the devs mentioned "learning some tricks and how to avoid some mistakes".

    I don't think I'm being sensitive though. First, I really don't think a decision to quit Lemmy would happen soon. Second, even though there are several apps for it under development, as I said, they're all at different stages of maturity and none of them cover all the bases I expect to use in the long term. I honestly hate having to reach around the screen to navigate, which is my biggest problem with all of them now that Memmy lost its gestures navigation. Then there are smaller stuff like Avelon not re-blurring NSFW after you tap on it. Or the crashes. Or the opening Lemmy links in a browser view instead of a regular view in the app. Some of these issues are shared between all of the 7 apps I have for Lemmy on my phone.

    I'm going to give it time, I understand very well how most of these apps are side projects. My main concern is that either these apps eventually get abandoned, or they go paid/partly paid like Avelon, while still not providing me with the experience I expect to get. I don't have the inclination to relive the awful experience Reddit forced us through for years with a different name.

  • Any updates?
  • Sorry guys, I think it might be my fault. 😂

    A month ago I replied to the dev with a wall of text on how I felt like Avelon showed great promises but paying for something based on what it sounds like it'll be in the future is a bad idea. I still think my position regarding this is right.

    However, a few days after that, I decided to just do it with the lifetime purchase and hope for the best. Turned out that around that time Memmy's devs revamped that app and haven't added the number one feature on my list (bottom bar swipes navigation) and others are still planned to return. Avelon also went on a hiatus (I think it's related to the rebalancing of pro features). Most other Lemmy apps are in different stages of having some stuff I like, but lacking most features I want.

    Hopefully we'll see updates again soon. I'm not going to try getting a refund or anything, but if this flops, I'm most likely gonna give up on Lemmy.

  • How to switch thr state of Fn keys?
  • I personally find it rather infuriating that swapping those is made so difficult, and to this day don't know who has more usecase for media keys and varied power buttons over function keys.

    Non-IT people, who, believe it or not, are the majority of users out there. I've stopped keeping score several years ago on how many people had asked me how to bind F-keys to something else, but at that point things were like 100% of IT people wanted F-keys, while 70-80% of non-IT asked me for help rebinding them to other things.

    I'm a programmer and these decisions annoy me as well, I'm just pointing to the answer as for why some computers come with the annoyance enabled (and often make it unnecessarily hard to change it). I'm by no means defending it. If anything, I think it should be up to the OS to have an easy way to change the behavior instead of assuming what the user needs and making it difficult to change.

  • (Edited to add context) Paywalling features most other apps have for free isn't a great look
  • Sorry for the late response but I guess this situation is a good example of some of the points I'm going to address.

    First, I am an avid Unix/Linux user and professional, having started using them in the early 90s as a kid. I basically grew amidst Linux going from a pet project to what we all see today, and the reason I'm bringing this up is to try and set aside any notion that I don't like Linux or any of its related projects. I do, I use Linux and related projects daily, both for personal and professional reasons.

    But there are things I don't like about it. One of the biggest is the community behavior where someone (or a group) disagree with something, then the """solution""" most people default to is to split off and start a parallel project, that is very similar to the previous one and that maybe addresses the disagreement that spawned it in the first place.

    The Federated network is just yet another example of this behavior. I understand how Twitter and Reddit drove many people out of their respective platforms and created the opportunity for a new thing, but I also see Mastodon and Lemmy doing the same thing dozens if not hundreds of Linux distros, Android versions, etc have and still do: they keep fragmenting things over and over and over.

    There is the mindset that the niche is more important than the broader audience, there is very little focus on non-technical users and instances come and go like it doesn't matter if someone spends hours, days, weeks finding communities they enjoy, then all of a sudden they have to figure out a way to redo all that on a new instance because the previous one decided to shut down.

    Lemmy is still only a tiny fraction of Reddit in terms of userbase and especially content. I browse these platforms for these reasons, not to brag about being "OG", or because a small community for some very specific niche migrated over. This ends limiting my time around here way more than I'd like. Lemmy just "runs out" of stuff I feel interested in much faster than Reddit does.

    The second "big point" is more directly related to Avelon and the other apps for Lemmy.

    I'd say that even though Avelon has been getting better and better, my "main" Lemmy app is still Memmy because it's the app that managed to put together the bigger number of features that I am particularly interested in - gestures navigation first, several tiny QoL bits later, such as reblurring NSFW content after opening it.

    A lot of the apps have some of these features but lack many others. Avelon gets closer to Memmy for me, but the gestures always pull me back towards Memmy because I just don't like doomscrolling through anything and having to reach around the screen to do stuff.

    All of the above said, these are the reasons why I don't feel inclined to paying for any Lemmy apps yet. No matter if it's a subscription or lifetime payment of any kind, none of the currently available apps are at a point where I feel like paying for something to access a platform that at any moment might fragment itself further and have even less content for me to access with said paid app(s).

    I don't mean any offense or attack, especially on you. You seem interested in making Avelon better every update and I respect that. But even the "ancestral" history on Reddit and Apollo added to this position of mine. I was an early adopter of Apollo Pro and Ultra Lifetime, and even though I used that app for years, often hours daily, I suffered with many bugs that never got properly addressed. So I've learned the lesson of putting money on what I will get whenever the payment goes through, not the promise of future updates. And finally I think I can conclude my position: I'll consider either subscribing or getting lifetime whenever both Avelon and Lemmy are at a stage where I feel it's worth the money. Otherwise I'll keep an eye on both and hoping they get there.

  • feature request: please make a quick "back to top" gesture or button on bottom bar
  • iOS has that feature built-in. Tap on the notch/dynamic island and it'll scroll back to the top of the screen.

    What some apps (Tweetbot, Apollo, Slide, etc) implemented to make that better, is code for when you tap on the notch:dynamic island a second time, it takes you to where you were before the first tap.

  • v1.0.5.4 (TestFlight) feedback
  • Ok, a couple of videos that didn't load:

    https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/2724582 https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/2724527

    And one that did not load and also made the player/app unresponsive (NSFW): https://lemmynsfw.com/post/1495824

    I'm gonna reinstall the App Store version and check if the performance perception holds water.

    Edit: No, you are right, it does not. The TF version is visibly faster than the App Store one.

  • v1.0.5.4 (TestFlight) feedback
  • Yep, this post was written from Avelon. Other than the lack of markdown support in the editor, it looks fine to me.

    For #1, I've only had 1 situation where stuttering happened, which was after around an hour or so of doomscrolling. It wasn't severe, but noticeable. Then I tapped on a video and the app went irresponsive, then I reloaded it.

    The performance I mentioned is just slower scrolling. On previous versions scrolling felt faster than on v1.0.5.4. It may be just wrong perception, though. Lemmy's instability has made me browse it less frequently. I'll reinstall the App Store version a bit later and see if it's just memory failing me.

    For #2, both videos and GIFs. I'll try to mark down which types (and host domain) and update you later.

  • v1.0.5.4 (TestFlight) feedback

    Hello,

    As the TF version specifically asked for feedback on a couple of points that I've noticed differences, here we are.

    1. Performance: it feels less fluid than before on my iPhone 14 Pro. Not game-breaking, but scrolling is slower (it feels like it never uses 120Hz scrolling now), some actions (voting/saving) feel slower or take multiple taps to register/happen (I was wrong about this, the TF version is visibly faster than the App Store one) and I've noticed quite a lot of videos not loading at all (usually NSFW ones). The player becomes irresponsive and in some cases I've had to reload the app to resume using it.

    2. Fonts: I'm not sure if the iPhone 14 Pro is considered small, and I use the font size slider at the 3rd point from the left, but the layout is slightly different. The fonts are larger than before, but if I move the slider one point to the left, they get smaller than before.

    And one extra thing I've noticed: there is no way to scroll back to the top of a community or feed without triggering a reload. Is this intended?

    Thank you though, this app keeps getting better.

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    [RANT] I pay $70/mo for this privilege
  • Data caps are everywhere, I'm not sure why you'd think they're a thing of the past. I believe the scenario is more like "you're lucky if your plan doesn't have caps" instead.

    1.5T/month is uncomfortable though. One of my VPN services has a 1T/month softcap (speed drastically reduces after that) and it's usually fine for my household, but one person going crazy on YouTube rabbit holes or us binging something on Netflix, pushes that limit fast.

    Terrible scenario, but unfortunately I think there's too much money involved for the right thing to be done and this kind of service getting the treatment it should have.

  • A feud is heating up between Arizona workers and the world's leading chipmaker after the company claimed the US doesn't have the skills to build its new factory
  • At this point it is crystal clear that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, but I'll potentially waste some more time to type information that I believe are the most important to rebate your most wrong/insane claims.

    First, you seem focused on Taiwan’s recent history (perhaps influenced by what you’ve seen regarding Hong Kong since 2019?), but Taiwan’s history is actually a lot longer than that. You can use this Wikipedia link as reference going forward if you at all plan on stopping being a non-sense-spewing piece of trash, but considering how that was just 1 Google search away from you and you still didn’t manage to do it, I don’t have hope for it.

    Taiwan, much like the vast majority of East Asia (if not all of Asia) is not as diverse as the US, so your bullshit about Taiwan being ethnically Chinese is the same as the US being ethnically British is a great sign of you being completely clueless about what the hell you’re talking about.

    Over 90% of its population is reported as Han Chinese by its own fucking government, so it is clear that there is absolutely nothing wrong with me saying that Taiwanese people are ethnically Chinese, while it is completely wrong for you to compare that statement to the bullshit that Americans are ethnically British. There are Americans who are, but that’s only one of the many minorities in that country. Meanwhile, 90%+ of Taiwanese people are Han Chinese, so please stop your nonsense.

    Second, another useful link for you. Go read it. I don’t claim to be any sort of expert in Chinese/Taiwanese history, but I know enough to not state trash like you have been. Taiwan as we know it today is vastly the result of mainland Chinese people migrating to the island over political situations that happened less than 100 years ago. This fact adds even more credence to the point of Taiwanese people being ethnically Chinese.

    And finally, as others have already told you, Taiwan calls itself Republic of China.

    I hope you learn how to find answers to your confused mind before you speak and especially, before you attack others due to your own ignorance.

    You have a nice life.

  • A feud is heating up between Arizona workers and the world's leading chipmaker after the company claimed the US doesn't have the skills to build its new factory
  • Taiwanese people are ethnically Chinese.

    That said, I don't have a dog in that fight and don't care one way or another whether Taiwan is considered part of China or a separate country.

    You seem offended by that for some reason, so my last reply to you is: I first said Asian/Chinese. I wasn't implying any political innuendo into the matter, I was merely referencing common Asian practices that I know are true in Taiwan as well as mainland China. Factories are factories, be it in mainland China, Taiwan, Japan, Vietnam, Africa or anywhere else. Stop trying to read offense where there isn't.

    And have a nice day.

  • A feud is heating up between Arizona workers and the world's leading chipmaker after the company claimed the US doesn't have the skills to build its new factory
  • 😂

    Factories share some similar characteristics no matter where they are in the world. I've seen first-hand examples of it in a few countries and second-hand examples in many others.

    Even places squarely "first world" such as Japan, South Korea or Singapore have very similar expectations for factory work, such as long hours in exchange for low salary.

    You can keep being petulant and attempting to force your opinion on the subject, I've said what I had to.

  • A feud is heating up between Arizona workers and the world's leading chipmaker after the company claimed the US doesn't have the skills to build its new factory
  • You have some good points but I'm not sure TSMC are looking for highly-skilled people to work at their off-site factory. I honestly believe that most, if not all high-skill positions would be filled by Chinese people. They need factory workers to keep the factory running, I seriously doubt they'd expect the US factory to be able to create anything new on its own in the foreseeable future.

    But at any rate, your points also show that it's not just the price at play here.

    Lastly, I agree with you regarding LTT. I didn't mean that they were bringing some insightful new information, just that it was the only place I saw it even being mentioned. I live in mainland China and see how Chinese companies treat employees, that's where I got my replies from.

  • Bugs and oddities I've found so far

    Really liking what I see so far, it has a very Apollo-esque feel. It feels so similar that I keep trying to navigate using bottom bar swipes (my favorite feature from Apollo) 😂

    What I have noticed so far in terms of bugs/needs improvement:

    • There is no setting to turn off the hide bottom bar on scroll. That‘s something I grew to really dislike ever since Apollo. The idea is nice but I just hate how the implementations never seem to work. It gets in the way more often than not, preventing me from using the bottom bar when I need it and not hiding it when I feel it’s safe to do. Therefore I prefer to just have that off.

    • More often than not most clients seem to fail to actually perform the action I just tried - voting, saving, etc. Lemma doesn‘t give any feedback on whether the action went through, so I spend more time than I think I should waiting for the voting/saving buttons to light up, etc. Often I need to go into the post again for it to update the statuses. I understand that some instances suffer from this more than others, but I think the client app should give you some hint on what just happened. For the record, I’m not sure what magic its devs have been doing, but Memmy seems to be the only one to get this mostly right. I‘d say it fails to perform the actions about 20% of the time or less, while most other clients seem to fail 50%+. Memmy also gives a haptic feedback on the actions, so I can notice whenever something goes wrong easier.

    • The media player opens videos stopped, so you need to tap again for it to actually play. I understand some people might want this behavior, but I think there should be a toggle for this behavior or for the video to start playing once you tap on it - I mean, it should be a separate thing from “autoplay of videos” on the feeds.

    • Search doesn’t seem to work, as shown by someone else here

    Thank you!

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