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Russia-Ukraine War Mega Thread | June 25 - July 8 2023
  • Ukraine was a peon Ukraine is still is a peon that relies on 100% foreign assistance, they are being used as a proxy and battering ram to weaken Russia for US, Ukrainians die for US interests, you can replace money and equipment but you can't replace men. US will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian.

    They put literally everything they had into Ukraine and went nowhere Russia isn't even treating this like a war, it's a limited 'special military operation' if they were treating it as a war they would be doing what US did in Iraq which is target & destroy all civilian infrastructure. The fact that Ukraine still has internet, operational airfields, running water, etc. confirms this, Russia can target Kyiv dam and flood the entire city, they can knock out internet infrastructure, millions of civilians would be crushed, this is what US did in Iraq. I'm not sure how old you are or you just have selective memory, but US launched tomahawk missiles into Iraq for 3 weeks straight before a single US soldiers foot stepped on Iraqi soil, the US military docterine is literally to "shock and awe" which is target all civilian infrastructure they deem to be "used militarily" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_and_awe now Imagine if Russia did this BEFORE they moved into Ukraine during the start of their SMO, you would be boohooing.

    Btw, if Ukraine is truly nothing? Why is Russia having so much trouble there? Aren’t they supposed to be a world power? This conflict was over last year, the only reason why it's prolonged is because the US keeps sending weapons to Ukraine, while Ukraine continues to mobilize and conscript more men. So just because Ukraine is playing 'aggressive defense' doesn't mean that's a good thing for them, that just means more Ukrainian casualties, and you're basically saying "Russia isn't winning fast enough" well Russia isn't working with a calendar. Look what's happening now, Russia has their own defenses and now Ukraine is trying to go on the counter-offensive... and look how that's going, yeah they are capturing a village here and there for Reddit upvotes and Twitter victories and to appease Washington as if they are doing something significant but at what cost? just more Ukrainian casualties. It's always funny when Ukrainian supporters say "Russia is weak, they are losing" and 1 minute later they say "Send more stuff to Ukraine please, give them everything you've got, Russia will take over Europe, they will conquer the world if we don't stop them omg!" so which one is it?

    US is "the world's superpower" and they lost in Afghanistan and Iraq, what's your point? what's with this highschool logic?

    The more I read what you say the more I figure out that you have no idea what you're talking about, all of your takes are of those of Redditors and NAFO trolls on Twitter, but it's okay because you're learning something here.

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    Russia-Ukraine War Mega Thread | June 25 - July 8 2023
  • And once more, another reply that fails to challenge all of my points. It's hilarious when delusional Ukrainian supporters speak about equipment because 1 country is self-sufficient and the other relies on 100% foreign assistance, can you tell which one is which? also, there's an entire list of the 'wunderwuffle' "game changer" equipment that Ukraine was sent, what happened to them? I thought the Leopards were going to be the latest game changers until we seen them get destroyed. What's the next "game changer" in your books? cluster bombs? are you going to keep begging for attack aircrafts that will get destroyed as soon as they fly on the frontlines? can you please show me images of the CURRENT & ACTIVE Ukrainian air force & naval forces? Speaking of countries collapsing, the longer this goes on the deeper hole Ukraine sinks in: https://joint-research-centre.ec.europa.eu/jrc-news-and-updates/war-exacerbates-ukraines-population-decline-new-report-shows-2023-03-08_en when US sits with Russia at the negotiating table that Ukraine wont be invited too because they are nothing but a peon being used as a proxy, US will need to give up territory for peace, those 4 regions & Crimea will forever be Russia's and when this entire thing is over with it will be memory-holed in the minds of the general population and Ukraine will be nothing but a weak pathetic farm country.

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    Russia-Ukraine War Mega Thread | June 25 - July 8 2023
  • Ukraine now has more tanks than Russia, better troops, better weapons, better reason to fight

    And yet the counter-offensive failed, so your analysis is wrong.

    As expected, not a single Ukrainian supporter who's living in the delusion & fantasy of a Ukrainian victory has so far challenged my points.

    Anybody else want to try?

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    Russia-Ukraine War Mega Thread | June 25 - July 8 2023
  • You're absolutely wrong and you've got it backwards.

    Ukraine has ran out of everything they've had pre-2024 conflict and is running out of everything they've gotten after conflict started up until now. Ukraine relies 100% on foreign military assistance, where as Russia does not, how? because they are manufacturing their own equipment. The Ukrainian navy and airforce does not exist because they are destroyed, where as Russia's naval & air forces is still operating.

    The saddest & most tragic thing about this entire conflict is that Ukraine has been mobilizing since 2014 until now, they've extended mobilization until August. Where as Russia has only done ONE partial mobilization late last year in December. That speaks volumes on which side has the most casualties.

    Furthermore, the Russian strategy has changed but the objectives remain the same: 1. De-militarize Ukraine & 2. have full control of the four regions they've annexed and are now part of Russia. While Ukraine's objectives are 1. Push the Russian forces out. So when you look at the objective map, Russia's objectives are working and Ukraine's objective has turned into playing aggressive defense while begging for foreign assistance and aggressive mobilization.

    So militarily Russia is winning & Russia is losing.

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