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Results from the @ThePSF and #PythonDevSurvey show #Python 3 is firmly here, and people are upgrading to the most recent versions each year:
  • @FizzyOrange
    Actually, those stats are from 2024-05-02, the last one listed at https://storage.googleapis.com/access-logs-summaries-nodejs/index.html but they do have 2024-09-02 available as well.

    Slightly more adoption of newer versions, still 5% over 5 years old:

    v22: 5.7%
    v21: 1.9%
    v20: 39.1%
    v19: 0.5%
    v18: 30.8%
    v17: 0.3%
    v16: 12.4%
    v15: 0.3%
    v14: 4.4%
    v13: 0.1%
    v12: 1.9%
    v11: 0.1%
    v10: 1.3%
    v9: 0.1%
    v8: 0.5%
    v7: 0.0%
    v6: 0.3%
    v5: 0.0%
    v4: 0.2%
    v0: 0.1%
    unknown: 0.0%

    Although 24.4% on EOL versions.

  • Results from the @ThePSF and #PythonDevSurvey show #Python 3 is firmly here, and people are upgrading to the most recent versions each year:
  • @FizzyOrange
    I processed the Node.js numbers:

    v22: 3.2%
    v21: 2.1%
    v20: 31.4%
    v19: 0.5%
    v18: 37.8%
    v17: 0.3%
    v16: 14.5%
    v15: 0.3%
    v14: 5.1%
    v13: 0.1%
    v12: 2.2%
    v11: 0.1%
    v10: 1.5%
    v9: 0.1%
    v8: 0.5%
    v7: 0.0%
    v6: 0.2%
    v5: 0.0%
    v4: 0.1%
    v0: 0.0%
    unknown: 0.0%

    v12 came out on 2019-04-23, 5.5 years ago, so 5% is over 5 years old. Not that different from Python.

    I think more importantly, Node.js 18, 20 and 22 are still supported, and we see a similar clustering as Python around non-EOL versions.

  • Results from the @ThePSF and #PythonDevSurvey show #Python 3 is firmly here, and people are upgrading to the most recent versions each year:
  • @FizzyOrange

    > 3.8 or less. 3.8 was released 5 years ago.

    The survey opened in Nov 2023, when 3.8 was still 4 years old, so 6% was on versions 5 years or older (3.7 and older, the EOL versions).

    Thanks for stats. I guess Rust is partly well-updated because of the excellent tooling.

  • Results from the @ThePSF and #PythonDevSurvey show #Python 3 is firmly here, and people are upgrading to the most recent versions each year:
  • @FizzyOrange
    > 15% of people still on a version that’s over 5 years old is pretty bad.

    Which version/year is that?

    > Most modern languages have pretty much everyone on the latest version.

    I'd be very interested in some stats, if you happen to know some.

    > Fortunately we finally have a better option - Rye (and maybe uv now?) can install recent versions for you. Hopefully that will improve matters.

    Yeah, uv can do that, I'm also hopeful!

    https://docs.astral.sh/uv/guides/install-python/

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