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There are few things fascists hate as much as antifascist coalitions
  • The American electoral system more or less ensures there can never be more than 2 competitive parties in any given election.

    Wait. So even with a larger amount of Votes on a 3rd Party, they would only allow the two biggest Parties in the Congress? I hope I just totally understood you wrong. Because if that's what you just said, then this is REALLY undemocratic.

  • There are few things fascists hate as much as antifascist coalitions
  • The way you put it, I would hardly even call it a democracy. Or let me rephrase that. It's a democracy but a really broken one.

    So the system would have to be fixed. And of course that won't happen because it would damage the parties that would need to fix it. Yea... really complicated.

    But at least locally, it should be fine to vote for 3rd parties. I see many seats there. You should try to get the choice in the places you can. (as long as the small parties aren't even worse, of course)

  • There are few things fascists hate as much as antifascist coalitions
  • Not all small parties that I see on the Wikipedia list even run in the elections? That's weird, makes it look like they aren't even trying. I think they should attend symbolic. Like "hey we are here. We exist" Just being on the Ballot also makes a difference.

    But yes, as you say, building up local support should be the first step. My Party lost the seat in the European Parliament, but we actually had many local Elections at the same time, and local we actually won new seats in some City Councils. I hope the people that got that seat will keep up good work and also speak about it, because most people don't even notice anything that happens in their own Councils. That way, we maybe get more votes from people out of that city in bigger elections.

  • There are few things fascists hate as much as antifascist coalitions
  • But isn't that a big problem? This way, you always have to vote for the least bad outcome. Because as far as I often read, both aren't that great. If everyone only votes for these two Partys, I would hardly actually call that a democratic choice, and you keep this Problem going and going this way. Nothing could ever change.

    Yes, as a silent 3rd Party voter it's impossible to change anything. So you would need to have speak up. Speak about this problem. In my View, Americans are shooting in their own leg my hating everyone who is voting for something different.

    Wouldn't it be better to have a third, or heck even a fourth party with seats?

    In Germany, our Government even is always formed by two parties together. I think this is really good. This way, one single ideology doesn't have too much control over everything.

  • There are few things fascists hate as much as antifascist coalitions
  • I'm not from the USA. We have many Parties here, so maybe I'm out of touch a little.

    But is it really that bad to vote some small 3rd Party? I think it's a big problem for Democracy if you only look on the two big parties. Yes it's completely unrealistic that a 3rd party gets enough votes to be the Government, but why be part of this Problem? And isn't a Vote for some small party STILL better than a vote for Trumps Party? Where is the difference to that my 0,001% goes to the Democratic Party or a smaller party? It's still 0,001% less for Trump.

    Also, I just checked this Wikipedia Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States And based on this list, some small parties actually have some seats and even have some mayors somewhere. So it seems like the vote is not 100% wasted.

    Isn't it better for Democracy to look on ALL parties?

    The Party in Germany I'm a member of sadly lost their Seat in the European Parliament this election, but this will not be a reason to just give up. Even with only one single seat, the party actually did much Important work. So I will not move to a bigger party now. I will talk to many people and advertise my party and try to get us back on a seat next time.

    Like I said, maybe I'm missing something in USA Politics. I don't know much about your system. Could someone explain to me why it's such a hated move to vote a 3rd Party in the USA? From my European viewpoint, I don't see why not. I'm here to understand.

  • Three Wishes
  • Problem as always with these Wishes. You didn't really clarify what we will have instead of capitalism. Now he changed the world to some entire new system that no one ever thought of before that is even worse. :o You need to state as much detail as possible when wishing

  • Not you
  • I'm from Germany and the Nazis were 2nd strongest Power.

    And they were even 1st strongest Power in the entire old GDR.

    Would not call that “beating” yet. And maybe I'm not up-to-date about the Netherlands, but my latest info there was that the Far Right also won many votes again.

    So still really shit times. When looking on the German Nazis they grow and grow.

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