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  • Of course she's to blame. She had an easy win, against the lowest approved president we've had and chose genocide and billionaires over winning.

    I always find it telling when people blame those who couldn't stomach voting for genocide, instead of blaming the Democratic leadership for running on a platform of genocide.

  • The disconnect is obvious to me, but to spell it out: They were terrible candidates that the majority of General Election voters didn't want. Those voters made that quite clear before the primaries, and were ignored. Then the Primary Election voters got behind the bad choice anyway.

    But General Election voters had already abandoned the Democrats, and rightfully so. The Primary Vote was only among those that were willing to vote for whatever terrible candidates the DNC pushed on them.

  • And how did that work out? Did people come out to vote for the Dems?

    Maybe if they had listened to the polls, the Dems would have had a candidate that people were willing to vote for in the main election

  • Voters were saying it very loudly, the Democratic leadership just ignored them. Polls were very clear that nobody wanted either of them to run, and they both had a low approval ratings. The ticket wasn't his to give, it was up to the voters. The Democrats chose to skip the voters, so the voters abandoned them.

    I don't see why anyone would expect voters to stick with a party that treats it's base so disrespectfully.

  • I feel that "a functioning healthcare system that doesn't bankrupt people", or "lets not light the planet on fire", or "lets make housing affordable", or "genocide is bad" aren't really huge requests. They seem like basic goals that any political leader should be able to shoot for. I guess I don't feel like those are anywhere near approaching "perfectionism".

  • I feel like your missing that many people do see the Democrats as the bad guys, and I can't say that I blame them. We recently asked them to say "Genocide is bad, and we won't support it" and they wouldn't. They are the baddies

  • Maybe the Democrats should prove the complainers wrong. The Democratic leadership has had plenty of opportunity to build trust amongst the voters, and decided to ignore them instead. They've spent years letting their voters down, which is why they aren't trusted.

  • A rigged primary, where the voters weren't really given a choice. Voters were very vocal that they didn't want him to run again, and the leadership openly ignored them. Next time, maybe the leadership should listen to the base that they claim they represent.

  • They fell far short of canceling the student loans that they promised, the climate bill was laughably insufficient, they did a terrible job during covid. They also recked the economy (some of which wasn't their fault, some of it was), backed a genocide, and ran 2 terrible campaigns. It seems pretty clear to me why voters didn't trust them.

    I also never advocated for letting the Republicans back into office. I'm not sure where that came from.

  • You are right, a bag of shit should have won against Trump. But somehow the Democratic leadership was still able to mess that up. Next time, they should bring their A team to the table instead of the D team.

  • And I can't say that I blame them. Biden's presidency... or his campaign... or Harris' campaign...

    It was a shit-show all the way through. Maybe next time the Democrats should try catering to their voter base.

  • I'm not a Democrat, so take this with a grain of salt: I think the Democratic leadership are indeed the baddies (just like the Republican leadership). I think most Democratic voters are well-intentioned people, who've been suckered into beliving the lies leadership.

    It's OK to be suckered in. I've been suckered into a lot of things. To broadly paraphrase: The best time to realize you've been suckered is yesterday. The next best time to realize is today.