Could you provide the instance url?
My bad... It wasn't supposed to sound that aggressive.
And to be honest: there is no confirmation for a free tier but I strongly believe (and hope) so because most people nowadays assume everything to be free and if they see Signal not having a free backup plan everyone would go
aAhHhHHHhH they are so greedy i thought they are a non-profit.
(I mean people who don't care about privacy and only use signal because their privay-aware friends told them to)
First of all: there will definitely be a free tier. The only thing not final is storage and media backup.
Second: local backup will most likely still be an option.
Why do people always hate on new features? Just don't use them if you don't want to
Then just use the free tier
No i think you misunderstood. Local backups (as we have them now) will (most likely) stay.
I'm gonna be honest. I chose a random article by JWZ and read it. The only thing they are talking about is the contact discovery system. If they don't want contacts to be uploaded (encrypted) then simply don't give signal the permission. And that the author moves to facebook messenger because there
at least the privacy failings are obvious
just shows how the author isn't even interested in secure and private messaging but only in defamig signal
Yes you are right but the website links github commits as sources
I've been using Matrix for a few days now and I have to say that encryption is a mess. Rooms and Spaces are not encrypted. 1:1 chats are encrypted but before it worked for my account (whysoever) I had to verify the other person. Also fluffychat is really buggy
Yes it seems like Thunder for some reason does it that way
I'm sorry. You are right. Does it work now?
I think in your (and most other) case(s) the free tier would be just fine
Did you use a forked client? If yes which one?
They are exactly the same and I can open them both 🤷🏼
Okay so I've been using Signal for over two years now and would like to address your critical points:
- I switched from my old phone to my current phone without losing even one message. Not even safety numbers changed
- Yes you have to give them a phone number. And yes atm everyone is able to see them. This will change this year as usernames are coming. The phone number will from then on only be used for verification and stored encrypted
- I have three devices: Phone (Android), Tablet (Android) and PC (Linux). All of the messages get synchronized properly and almost instantly
- I don't know what you mean by this exactly but I think you mean that the official Signal server doesn't support forked clients which is false if you take a look at Molly (which I'm using on my Tablet due to several reasons)
In terms of reliability in general I never experienced any issues with Signal. It works great even in bad internet connection scenarios.
We are getting Cloud Backups in the future! Currently, there are two tiers planned:
The free tier offers:
- 30 days of media backup
- ??? GB of storage
The paid ($3 / mo) tier offers:
- media & text backup forever
- 1TB of storage Both tiers' features and the pricing of the paid plan are still subject to change
What do you think about this?
Sources: SignalUpdateInfo
Yes I understand that but there's no messenger that's really perfect. Btw signal is working on free and paid cloud backups for iOS and Android
Matrix is more for communites
Has a much smaller userbase and not tech-savy people wouldn't undestand why you want them tp use session.
Many of us (or at least me) would probably like to see Signal getting decentralized. Here are a few thoughts I had about this recently.
First let me define three persons:
- Peter (using the official signal.org instance)
- Ted (using the example.com instance)
- Andrew (using his own instance under andrew.chat)
Couldn't we use the upcoming username feature to build a decentralized signal network? For example with a modified client or maybe just a modified libsignal library we could parse the instance from the username which would look like an email address (ted.42@example.com or andrew.62@andrew.chat). If the username doesn't have a domain part it just uses the default instance (so Peter just has the username peter.94).
Maybe we have some people here who are already familiar with the Signal codebase and willing to assist?
EDIT: Yes I know Session and Matrix exist but Session is to extreme and technical and Matrix is more focused on communities and groups which aren't even encrypted. Besides that both of them have a much smaller userbase compared to Signal.
We will get another part this year which plays somewhere inbetween "Alien" (1979) and "Aliens" (1986) according to space.com