Set fire to the rain - Adele ?

Resan till Melonia, which is a cartoon adaptation of The Tempest. In it, two evil capitalists happen upon the island Melonia, untainted by their greed. The inhabitants of Melonia travel to the capitalist society to save Melonia and all the children the capitalists have enslaved. You know, normal childrens’ cartoons :-)

Come on now. We all know that evolution is the expination to gravity! Look, all things that does not fall down, fall into space and die, hence only the things falling down to earth can live on and reproduce! Gravity is an emergent propery of evolution! Duh!

They wanted to kick out the Swedish Liberal party from Renew because they are collaborating with the far right here. Renew allowed them to stay in the group. So yeah, they are not directly against the far right either.

Sorry, several things here.

"Rights before immigrants", so "just" a higher standing than people of different origins? I'm sure we have a word for this.

And this is what I'm saying. Yes, they do not only want "no immigration". There must be "order" too. There is no "order" if we do not give police the means to achieve it. There is no "order" if you allow scientists to tell you that these are not effective ways to achieve order. There is no "order" if the people trying to achieve the "order" are being critiqued.

Then in many cases it is not about "want". "Want"? What does it matter? "I voted for the totally-not-nazis-anymore-party, because I read their pamphlet and they just wrote good things there. I'm a good guy and thought they were best. Oh, these guys on the telly says that one of the things I thought was a good thing was really fucked up. That makes me feel bad and stupid. But I'm a good guy. Did I do something wrong? The totally-not-a-nazi-anymore-guy says it is not fucked up, but good actually. That makes me feel comfortable. I'll adopt that view instead. I'm a good guy." Lucky us! This guy did not "want" free speech to be forbidden in universities, or which ever.

You may be right. I should probably have said, "what is implied by your reply in the context of the thread is not true" instead, and then perhaps elaborated on the implication some more.

What are you talking about? I just agreed that there is a difference between voters and politicians, and then I elaborated on one such difference. In the same comment I also tried to highlight that this still means that it is not the "immigration" question they are voting for.

There is a difference. But what you are saying is not true, bacause it was tested in Sweden. All parties in parliament, except three parties at like 18% votes in total, said the far-right party have always been correct when it comes to immigration ("always" including when they were an explicit nazi party), and switched to their line. If the voters understood and did not want all that other shit, they should have switched. They did not.

But there is a difference. The people who run the party today, who joined it when it was an explicit nazi party, probably have a certain goal in their mind where they need all these steps. The voters, in general, are just rationalizing why they vote for the steps.

These takes are always so dumb. "It's immigration". Then why do these parties also want to get rid of public access television and radio? Why are they trying to limit investigative journalism? Why are they limiting independent research at universities? Why are the against public welfare systems? Social institutions? Juridicial safety? Democratic protections? It's almost like it is something more...

I'm guessing this is a pun that people are missing?

Was thinking the same thing. Suck it, stupid quick time events!

There is also a large analysis around migration that plays various roles in this. Like they mention that services are unmaintainable with no immigration to those areas. But also, who is emmigrating to cities? People seeking higher education, often from more well off families, predominatly women. This leaves a lot of working class men, who is often the main target of the far right. In Sweden, about 25% of men vote for the far right. This is just one example, I imagine there can be a lot of related reasons to this emmigration observation.

Did not know that. But I'm not talking immediatly, I mean I'm lucky if I could manage within an hour after eating.

Brushing my teeth too close after eating. If I do it, I will throw up.

I don't know what is more pathetic, that you know so little about european politics that you thing that, or that you are canadian... and what? Pretending to be european?

Horrible liar and turncoat. Minister for a government with far-right policies when she promissed to be the one voice of her party against that. She abandoned liberalism in favour of the far right for a prestigious position and money. So did the rest of her party, to be fair, but before the election she claimed to be against it.

Ah, yes, the Big Immigration, like public access radio and television, critical investigative journalism, social sciences, free elections, independent research, public health care and schools, social democracy, and the environment. I keep forgetting that the reason they are against all this is because it is immigrants that run all of them.

I got a citation from a group once, in a footnote, which was just basically "we think the conclusions of [32] are wrong, but we will not comment on why". 1., its because your conclusions were in conflict with ours, and 2. Well, OK then, I'll do better in the future will all the constructive critisism you are providing!

On my main computer: Ubuntu (@2005) -> Gentoo (for years) -> Arch (for maybe 6 months) -> Gentoo (for years) -> Debian (for years) -> Gentoo (until now)

Hey, that number is off by 2.14076 * 10^21