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CDC reports highest childhood vaccine exemption rate ever in the U.S.
  • The basic premise is that the community needs to be inoculated enough so that any breakout doesn't have enough viable hosts around to jump to and dies out before it can gain momentum among a wider population. This benefits others in the community who are still vulnerable for whatever reason and is a legitimate argument for why people should care if other people get vaccinated. If the threat is dire enough it could even be argued that others should be forced against their will. The costs of implementing herd immunity can be quite high, as well as the benefits—but for us to begin even thinking about whether it's worth paying, we must be sure we can realistically achieve it.

    If the level of inoculation among the population is too low the virus will spread. That's what's important—that's why it's all or nothing. The fact that it's slower, or that it won't overwhelm hospitals as quickly, is so trivial in comparison as to be inconsequential. The only thing that matters is that it's still there. Fast or slow, it will still infect the entire world, and the vulnerable won't be safe.

    Given all of the above, it goes without saying that a vaccine that only stops a virus from making you sick but doesn't stop it from spreading is next to useless when it comes to herd immunity—that much should be obvious. I would think it should be obvious too that the covid vaccine is one of such a type, but if you're interested in arguing that here or elsewhere—or anything else for that matter—please know that ridiculing and dismissing others because you think they're so obviously wrong and incapable of being saved, is in fact the only thing preventing anyone from trying to fix it.

  • CDC reports highest childhood vaccine exemption rate ever in the U.S.
  • Herd immunity doesn't exist until a high enough percentage of the population is inoculated, so if you can't realistically hit that threshold it's worthless to the community to try and get as many people as you can.

    Also, herd immunity only works when the vaccine prevents you from transmitting the disease to others in the first place.

    I know this article is about vaccination in general, but many people are going to view it especially in the context of the covid pandemic—so it's important to note out that the covid vaccine does not satisfy either of the above requirements. Whatever the value may be of achieving herd immunity in any other case, it unequivocally does not apply to covid. I'm not implying that you were saying it did, btw, just advising people—especially the vehement, single-minded detractors and defenders both—not to treat vaccines as if they're all the same.

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  • Both perspectives are defensible. The question could be interpreted generally on its own, or in the context of OP's new-user experience. Personally I would lean towards the latter, but that makes an assumption that the] look

  • [Not the Onion] Nobel Prize winning economist says Bidenomics is working if you exclude food, energy, shelter, and used cars.
  • The Internet is like TV 2.0?

    You're comparing a unidirectional medium to a bidirectional medium, just for starters. It'd be much more appropriate to compare the Internet to phone or telegraph, but neither of those are adequate either.

    Consider that the internet enabled smartphones. Many other things did too, but the thing that separates smartphones from those other things is Internet. It turned an already cool wireless global voice communication device into the equivalent of like 40 separate devices you used to own 30 years ago, but that fits in your pocket, and can still do unbelievable god-like shit that just wasn't possible back then, period.

    Smartphones are so ridiculous that in many movies made today they have to pretend smartphones don't exist, because if they did then the problems that form the basis of the plot wouldn't—so I see a lot of movies that look like they're set in circa 2000s, i.e. mostly present day with dumbphones. Anyway.

    All this is not to say that anything is more impactful than electricity. I'm just saying Internet is not tv 2.0.

  • Penalty, Dems. Unsportsmanlike conduct.
  • Of course not, but that's not what Bob and Mike did. Bob and Mike are nearly indistinguishable in terms of military spending, conducting wars abroad, allowing our economy to be plundered, and generally doing jack shit to help ordinary American citizens who are suffering worse and worse as a result.

    So yeah. Every single one of them did very bad things, and any differences you can point out are not nearly substantial enough to make any of them worth defending.

  • Penalty, Dems. Unsportsmanlike conduct.
  • Everything Democrats accuse Republicans of is true.

    Everything Republicans accuse Democrats of is true.

    Biden is bad.

    Trump was bad.

    Obama was bad.

    Bush was bad.

    Clinton was bad.

    "At least he did X" is not the right thing to focus on.

    "But Y was/would have been worse" is not the right thing to focus on.

  • Does usage of third party youtube apps necessitate a VPN in the near future?
  • Yeah, there's a big difference between "random country" and "home country".

    I experimented with this some time ago and failed because I didn't have a credit card from the foreign country to pay with. I'm sure this can be circumvented with some effort, but it's not trivial.

  • Murena 2 is a de-Googled Android phone with a privacy kill switch that disconnects mic and camera
  • Your mistake is in thinking that representation in the media/web sphere = representation in the population. White I don't know the numbers, I reckon that the percentage of the population that doesn't want a headphone is less than half—possibly much less.

  • I have several questions, actually
  • It doesn't matter how common the written error is, because the ambiguity is omnipresent in speech and we sort it out every day of our lives, so it will always be easy as fuck.

    FYI, both of you are overacting. It's weird to react to the correction so seriously, but equally weird for you to get so offended by the error. Both of you be better.

  • I have several questions, actually
  • You're currently in violation of the oldest, most sacred rule of secret-sharing, and recommend you amend that per your obligation to the social contract, as a matter of principle.

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