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I mean, "internment camp" is just an accurate description regardless of conditions. It is a camp where civilians are imprisoned or "interned" without formal charges or sentencing by the standard criminal justice system. That it's an internment camp isn't even a debatable point.

It's the euphemism they use to avoid "concentration camps", which is what these are due to the awful conditions. Those have an even worse reputation because they often turn out to be death camps. Weirdly, if you put people in inhumane conditions you necessarily dehumanize them, and at some point you just start killing them rather than keep an increasing number of people you don't see as people alive in increasingly poor conditions.

No, that makes them slower because theyre leaning into the wind. You want to try to mostly use A's, because they're the most aerodynamic, and anything else should be formatted as subscript to keep code size down and reduce drag. C should be avoided at all costs because it's just going to catch the wind.

Technically we've always been there, it just hasn't mattered because both meant the thing wasn't happening in a consistent manner.

"Blocking a rule" is how they seem to be phrasing "vacating a rule". The court held that the FTC didn't follow the procedures it was given for establishing rules, and so the rule is malformed and void.

The supreme Court restricted nationwide injunctions, which are a type of court order forcing or prohibiting action, usually pending appeal to prevent further damage.

It's the court deciding a rule wasn't properly formed vs a court giving an order that reaches outside the scope of their jurisdiction.

Since a federal appeals court is an arbiter of federal law, deciding that a federal agency made a rule wrong is inside their jurisdiction.

It should be the case that a court can order you to stop breaking the law and you need to stop everywhere. The notion that the court can order you to stop dumping shit in a river and you can just move upstream across state lines and be fine is preposterous.

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https://www.webstaurantstore.com/hellmanns-real-mayonnaise-24-gallon-drum/125HLMN8828.html

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The largest sold to consumers through normal channels is a gallon. Typically used by people who are feeding a lot of people, like making a dish for a large family gathering, or by people who only go shopping once a month or less. Some people live an hour from the store, so they just buy an excessive amount of food and shop infrequently.

Every barrel you see on TV or in a movie is 55 gallon or 42 gallon.
Other sizes exist but those two are so prevalent that you really only see those. The size comes from the oil industry where it's a standard unit. It's common to sell oil in different units, but the barrel size is so common that everyone just uses the same container and maybe just rounds the units.
Can't use a 42 gallon barrel , has to be the metric 160L, or the 200L 55 gallon drum.

We had a big push to try to adopt metric for a bit. It stalled out for various reasons, but it ended with metric units being required on food and stuff, metric being the official system of the government, and new things introduced in that period being referred to in metric.
So beverages come in 8, 12, 16, and 20oz, 1 liter, 2 liter, and gallon.

We also print both units on just about everything.

There's also the family that uses mayo and only goes shopping once a month or whatever. Some of those bigger jars are something like two normal sandwiches a day for a month, which is totally possible if you're packing lunch for two kids.

Some of our preposterous containers of food are because some people decide to live unreasonably far from a grocery store, or just go shopping infrequently and buy huge amounts of food.
(This has the side effect of making them buy bigger cars to hold the groceries and family that now has to come along because it's such a long trip, and that makes it miserable so they try to do it as infrequently as possible, so they need to buy a lot of groceries to hold them over. )

For most things where dropping it is likely and would definitely break it. It also lines up with the cost change for glass going up as the container gets bigger.

I figure part of it is people having a preference for the lighter jar for big quantities, and liking the rigidity of glass for the smaller ones.

I always discover that one or two episodes in. It's always that it's a good idea executed poorly.
The fan wiki is great when you just want more of the idea but to skip the cruddy details.

Because your post was about the people in the south who didn't want this, and you held up the ignorant and misinformed as an example?

class consciousness, not culture war.

Because you were talking about culture war and I was responding to you?

Fucking hell, let me copy it for you again:

Those examples are from 105 and 60 years ago.
There are ways to make the point you're going for, but invoking legislation that old doesn't do it.

Do you see how maybe that was more of a comment about a weak example rather than disagreement?

You were "chirping" squawking blathering talking about how we need class consciousness rather than culture war. Maybe if you actually read what I wrote from a non-confrontational view you could understand that I was saying "victims of a culture war can't ignore it".

Feel free to ask me any questions as well, since I'm gathering you still didn't read anything I wrote.

I actually thought you were interested in having a discussion for a minute and not just indignantly misinterpreting everything to take offense at.

I'll say it one more time: ignoring a culture war being fought against you doesn't make it go away, even if it's just a proxy for a class war. Southerners are fully capable of making informed decisions, and at some point you just stop having sympathy for the ones who could choose to be better but don't. It sucks that some people can't choose and get hurt along the way too. Maybe the misinformed will eventually hurt themselves hard enough to stop fighting a culture war against the disenfranchised at someone else's behest, but I don't have a lot of sympathy for those that choose to hurt others.
An oppressed minority still means that there's an oppressive majority who voted to hurt themselves.

Can you point out where I said it doesn't? Are you even actually reading?

You act as though I railed against the notion of voter suppression when one sentence said one part of what you said wasn't compelling for the point you were making.

I didn't ignore your point, I fucking agreed with it a few sentences later. I called you an ass because you angrily said you didn't read the reply after one sentence and accused me of being disingenuous.

Who said the lingering effects of slavery didn't have an impact? You said the voting rights act and universal suffrage being recent meant that a lot of people in the south were disenfranchised before them, hence they couldn't vote for the way things are. Most people in the south did not have their voting rights impacted by policy before those to effect because they weren't alive.
That's why I didn't say systemic racism doesn't exist, or that economic or political disenfranchisement doesn't exist, I said that those aren't compelling evidence to make the valid point you're going for. I then proceeded to talk about other stuff related to your post, which you would know if you bothered to read instead of assuming that anyone that didn't entirely agree with you must be disingenuous.

Yeah, you're not a good faith conversational actor. Go back and reread what I initially wrote. So far you're responding more to being called an ass for being rude than to "ignoring a culture war means dead trans kids".

I did actually read your comment, I just didn't entirely agree with you you condescending ass.

MLKs daughter never voted without the civil rights act. You forgot to add 18 to the age someone would need to be to have voted before the act passed.
Most of the southern electorate is neither 78 or older, or even 60.
The point was that it's not a convincing argument, not that someone isn't alive who was impacted.

I'm not sure what class disenfranchisement has to do with the part you're angry about. Maybe if you actually read what I said you'd have seen where I mentioned it for the rest of the comment.

If you're not even going to read what people say, you have no grounds to complain that people aren't "being a genuine participant".

Those examples are from 105 and 60 years ago.
There are ways to make the point you're going for, but invoking legislation that old doesn't do it.

Am I sympathetic to people who are ignorant and so voted against their own interests? Sure, a bit. A lot of southerners would take issue with trying to defend them with cries of "don't blame them, they're too stupid to agree with me!” though.
Am I sympathetic to people who have been systematically disenfranchised and economically abandoned? Of course, I'm not a monster.

The fact remains that a lot of people in red states earnestly believe in what they vote for. You can talk about class consciousness all you want, but the people fighting the culture doing so because of manipulation by the rich or powerful in a class war does fuck all to help the people loosing said culture war. I'm sure the suicidal trans kid takes great comfort that the people voting to make them illegal are just misled.

They've had every opportunity to inform themselves. Maybe eventually they'll hurt themselves enough to stop fighting the culture war you don't want others to fight.

I feel less sympathetic for many conservative states than this image would encourage, but even though gerrymandering doesn't impact presidential elections directly it does impact state legislatures who then control the rules around presidential elections.
Every vote is counted, which is why there's focus on voter suppression. If your legislature decides to make it harder to vote in liberal or more densely populated areas, voter turnout will naturally skew conservative. Same for shifting requirements to focus on criteria less often met by demographics that don't support you, or changing the criteria for purging the voter registry and making it harder to register.

How dare people want to.... Enjoy our natural beauty, scenic wonders, and landscapes that have inspired generations of artists, musicians, writers and some of our nations most iconic leaders and minds.

How fucking dare they. We'll show you for traveling all the way to see some of the only unambiguously good things in our country.