https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine First link under population is: https://www.pcbs.gov.ps/statisticsIndicatorsTables.aspx?lang=en&table_id=676 It says as first measurement 1997: 2783084 And for 2023: 5483450 This is a 2x increase. How can anyone realistically argue with genocide when the population rises continuously and doubled within 25y.
I don’t agree, genocide is a drastic overstatement and not fair to actual genocides. Are civilians displaced? Yes. Are civilians casualties higher than they should? Yes. None if that is anywhere close to the scale of intent of a genocide. And considering the history of their neighbours aggression i‘d argue it’s the other way around. If anyone ever really tried to eliminate the other, the jews can claim the victimhood here for sure.
Reading your sketch of Future feels comforting as it would man a future in peace for close to no real sacrifice. Imho that future is made impossible by all surrounding Muslim countries so having elimination of all Jews on their to do list and close to none of them is willing to compromise on that. For the Jews it’s no game, no cheap land grab like in Ukraine, jews fight because losing means being annihilated. (1949, 1956, 1967,…)
I literally mentioned that on the same comment.
More the strong bull the dumb butcher didn’t kill and is now being torn into pieces by.
Reading this i see the issues of the notice bit really being one and the unnecessary victims it created. Assuming more time was given and more people would have been evacuated. There would still be some left as hamas kept them as hostages and prevented escape of their own people. How should have Israel approached that dilemma?
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I see your point. Still i‘d argue after evacuation notice everybody left is a legitimate target. Free yourself if you are oppressed or die. Sad reality i know and i would be angry as hell myself but what would i expect Israel to do? Let Hamas continue? My life would be the sacrifice i can’t Israel blame to make as i was the retard allowing Hamas to operate that way in the first place.
Terrorist supporters who are brainwashed to death do the intended job all over the world. FTFY
Genocide where population triples within a decade or more LOL.
If Hamas manages GenAI may be they can actually provide convincing pictures, but your never see UN watchers confirming it obviously.
A lot of words for mimimi i wanna be a Hamas supporter and be against Israel no matter what.
Like those hundreds of the hospital which oops was A) the Hamas themselves and B) only a handful victims as well. Don’t believe all shit that is fed to you ;)
Yeah unpopular opinion around fanatics here, but these are buildings not people. The plan of the war is eliminating future threats like the massacre that happened. If that means eliminating infrastructure, so be it. Hamas used buildings preciously designed for civilians in a war that makes them legitimate targets according to international right.
Yes, so far the IDF is showing super human self control. Rarely see that in war.