@G4Z I'm sure he's been on the receiving end of many jobs. Ahem. Yuck.
They're both pure as the driven snow.
@RubberDuck while I view all mainstream reporting on Labour with a bit of scepticism, I don't doubt these are actual conversations being had.
"What's in it for me?" is an attitude that is so ingrained, I'm not sure how long it will take for it to change - and for politicians to stop trying to appeal to it.