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  • Usually when hotels close past a certain time you can use a secondary entrance with your keys/card or at most call. Most hotels have a desk open 24h so this doesn't even apply.

    Also, I really don't think Italians are generally rude. People are friendly, but also loud and warm, which often can be misunderstood. Assholes exist, obviously.

  • Pope repeats gay slur in closed-door meeting, ANSA reports
  • Oh no, a comment in another context again interpreted from your US-centric view!

    I mean, you think I care about your respect? A person who makes 0 effort in understanding other points of views (quite similar, ironically) and straight up insults and wishes death to others? Lol you are thinking way too much of yourself.

    I also stand by every word of that comment, as the concept of white privilege doesn't apply everywhere (Italy has a completely different history and racial dynamic compared to US).

    Again, you have a colonialist mindset, and you are completely incapable of accepting that the US cultural lens is not the only lens that exists and that won't apply to many. So tell whatever stories you want to yourself, shout as much as you can, but I am just explaining my views and providing cultural context (which has nothing to do with excusing or defending homophobia). You refuse to accept this context because you think that your perspective is universal. I will repeat it, colonialist mindset.

  • Pope repeats gay slur in closed-door meeting, ANSA reports
  • Frociaggine is not a word that refers to a person. Frocio is, and I mentioned that while it is sometimes used without hatred, the latter is more generally a slur. Frociaggine/frociata is also very used to describe something flamboyant. It is a bit heavier than that, but definitely far from "fag...tness".

    I explained this already, but you didn't want to read " the essay", so here I am repeating myself.

    fact, the fact that they use it so casually is just more evidence of how deeply entrenched queerphobia

    Or maybe it's evidence that cultures and languages are differently and evolved differently, and not everything has to model to the English (American) version?

    I already made an example for insults which are used completely in a friendly way, you can have other examples in religious people god-swearing (something that doesn't even exist in most languages). The fact that while you don't belong to the culture, do not speak the language but pretend to be authoritative about what the language is or should be is honestly hilarious. Now, is the pope queerphobic? Very likely, but because it's the head of a queerphobic institution who has a queerphobic posture since ever, not because he used frociaggine.

  • Pope repeats gay slur in closed-door meeting, ANSA reports
  • You can also verify that "mortacci tua" (literally: cursing your dead ancestors) is a slur/cuss, but in Rome it is used 80% as a friendly expression. Just to make an example.

    Culture and language exist beyond your google searches...

  • Pope repeats gay slur in closed-door meeting, ANSA reports
  • So your opinion on the use of an Italian word is not important, as you are not in the community (Italian speakers). Sounds good to me.

    (Obviously I consider your argument BS, but happy to apply it both ways).

  • Pope repeats gay slur in closed-door meeting, ANSA reports
  • "I don't speak the language, you do, but I know better than you what is and is not a slur because every language has to work the same". Frociaggine is hardly a slur, it's a term that can be used in many contexts without any particular hateful undertone, although this applies to friendly contexts mostly. "frocio" is closer to a slur because it's more personal, although in Italian is very common for slurs/bad words to be used in a completely different way too (see for example use of "stronzo") or without the bad connotation. In Rome this phenomenon is particularly common.

    You seem to have a colonialist mindset. Your culture/language apparently has to apply anywhere, no differences accepted.

    Also, I am a radical leftist who is a full supporter of LGBTQ rights, and I fight the Church in Italy for decades. So you can put down your strawman.

    Calling gaslighting telling you about a word that you don't understand is the cherry on top :)

  • Pope repeats gay slur in closed-door meeting, ANSA reports
  • Unlike you (apparently) I speak the language, and my whole point is that it's not really a "slur". You can feel as you want about it, you can even feel attacked by someone wishing you good day, for all I care. It doesn't change the fact that the word itself is not really that bad. It's not comparable to " fag..." In English.

    I see you are just a hateful person who is looking for reasons to feel prosecuted, at the cost of bending reality, so you can hate others. Suit yourself, I am sure your behavior will greatly help your community!

    Edit: I forgot. You are wishing people to burn or worse in this thread left and right, with a half-asses understanding of what has been written. You are nasty even IF someone was defending the pope. Take it down a couple of notches.

  • Pope repeats gay slur in closed-door meeting, ANSA reports
  • So you have problems reading I guess. I am saying the slur is not the problem (because it's not that bad in this instance), the institutionalized homophobia is one of the many systemic problems of the church that is not going anywhere even if you get a pope that speaks using pronouns.

    So take a chill pill, being gay or even being right doesn't give you the right to be a nasty person. Cheers

  • A fresh install of Signal takes up 410MB, blowing both Firefox and Chromium out of the water
  • Does it work phone to phone? I was under the impression that a backup restore was needed if you wanted previous messages. It's really an unnecessary security risk to have previous message sync. Someone gets your phone in their hand for 20 seconds, links your device and they get every message you have ever sent? No bueno.

  • Pope repeats gay slur in closed-door meeting, ANSA reports
  • Dude I am from Rome, I want to see the Vatican in flames since way before people got upset from a very small thing among the many more serious reasons.

    Few months ago when the Pope made timid openings to the LGBTQ community he was celebrated as a revolutionary. I am just saying, the word itself is not that bad and if this is the reason you feel such anger, and not the fact that the Church is an institution who did so many atrocious things (instituzionalized misogyny and homophobia among the many), then your judgment is just poor and you are getting angry for the wrong reason.

  • Pope repeats gay slur in closed-door meeting, ANSA reports
  • Tbh the word he used is not that bad, or at least is used in many contexts in informal conversation, but only in very few I would consider it a "slur". I wouldn't say it translates well to English.

  • Lemmy.ml tankie censorship problem
  • I am not sure I understood. You called some mod by name and they removed the comment? If that's the case, I perfectly understand and agree with the decision tbh.

    That said, this is a general argument, not referred to any particular mod. I think that many people get angry when their content is moderated and they might want to harass/argue/avenge against the mod who took that action.

  • Julia Louis-Dreyfus calls political correctness in comedy 'fantastic'
  • Yeah, I can see your point and I would say I generally agree.

    Stand up comedy though I think is quite a gray area. Ultimately cannot be seen as pure entertainment as that's exactly what it distanced from when it was born. Laughing ultimately is just the mean but not the goal of this particular form of comedy.

    But I agree about not being entitled to a crowd that finds you funny and throwing a fit about that.

  • Julia Louis-Dreyfus calls political correctness in comedy 'fantastic'
  • I would say that the audience can be "wrong", where I mostly mean "inappropriate for the specific comedian" at least.

    One example that comes to mind is this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M4ckxcHx1q4 (Which unfortunately is in Italian). This monologue is an incredible piece on feminism, and the audience was extremely silent and unresponsive, probably because they were a "TV crowd" with a stand-up comedian (the best Italy has ever had IMHO) who was totally out of their league. In this case, the comedian ended up "rebuking" the audience and I think he was right at that.

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