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Astonishingly bad response.
You're sorry for calling all of the women and non-binary, POC, queer, and gender-nonconforming posters who shared and discussed reactionary rhetoric 'cishet white men', because what you actually meant to say was that they're privileged, antisocial first-worlders who are intentionally disseminating material that will harm people in order to virtue signal that they're one of the good ones. What are these users who you slandered supposed to get out of this as an apology? "Oh, well, thank goodness they don't think I'm a cishet white man; they actually just think that I'm an overprivileged cynic who's hurting people outside of the imperial core to signal to the website masses that I'm part of the in-group". Completely ridiculous, and an equally complete failure to understand any of the concerns being brought up by the (wrongfully) banned and then (rightfully) unbanned users over the past few days.
Minor props for at least willing to own up to the fact that you said it, but this clearly just doubling-down on the same sentiment with different language.
- what actually happened ?
  I don't understand any of this ?
  I didn't post on either of those two communities but I did comment on them and like them ,I am a Palestinian who lives in the west bank ,surely I am not privileged lol
  
  You're absolutely correct. The rhetoric in the apology doesn't make sense, because it assumes that the people who posted in those communities were all first-worlders with imperial core privilege, which is an absurd assumption to make without doing any investigation. I'm very surprised by how this is being presented as something so clearly true that there doesn't need to be any evidence or testimony to back it up, only vibes. I'm already annoyed enough at myself and other users being told that we're white, cis men, and I'm doubly annoyed that the apology that's meant to make it better is instead accusing us of being misanthropic clout-chasers. I can't imagine how much more upset I'd be if I didn't live in the imperial core on top of all of this.
  It's just so many ridiculous guesses on top of ridiculous guesses. It doesn't even make sense. I've been paying attention to everything and I don't understand it either.
  
  Are the admins of this site Libs who are trying to appease other turbo libs on other instances ?
  did this have to do with the US elections
  I am so so confused by all of this
  
  I don't think the admins are libs, but I do think (and this post is evidence) that some of them are reactionary.
  
  but I do think (and this post is evidence) that some of them are reactionary.
  so why can't we replace them?
  if these people don't like hexebear and aren't part of the user base they shouldn't mod it
  
  so why can't we replace them?
  We can. We simply need an admin like @CARCOSA@hexbear.net to (please) step in and defrock them.
  
  I think her intention is to go against what she believes to be some privileged pickme's on this site. Like when a privileged person shares the horrid takes they hear with a marginalized person in order to flash their "I'm not like them" credentials and collect brownie points for not being actively harmful. Except that means the marginalised person has to hear the horrid takes which already can cause harm.
  That's how I understand it anyway.
  
  That is not at all why I participated in the tanks. Further, just quoting the admin line isn't helpful here.
  
  That is not at all why I participated in the tanks
  and I am a Palestinian who commented there ,btw I do live in Palestine (nablus) so I am pretty sure I am not a "privileged pick me"
  
  sorry I was just trying to clarify what I understood the admin meant to mohammed, not comment on truthfulness of that statement.
  
  edited my original comment, is that helpful or should i just nuke it?
  
  I think it's helpful. It's good to make sure there's no misunderstandings, and your sentiment shown here by asking a followup is kind hearted.
  
  No, it is weighing the value of dunking vs people getting exposed to the hateful stuff that gets dunked on. At least when it comes to this post.
  
  Here you go Mohammed, I write up a timeline of sorts
  https://hexbear.net/comment/5621652
  And it is just petty online drama, but @dustbunnies@hexbear.net has written some good words about how online spaces can be important and shouldn't just be disregarded as nothing worth worrying about
  For you in your situation this must all seem even more ridiculous though. I'm sorry and embarassed that this is what is big on the site right now.
  
  I'm sorry and embarassed that this is what is big on the site right now.
  thankfully I wasn't active when the shitshow happened,I only saw the name change thing and I was like that's fine because racism is intolerable and while I found it weird That they wanted to replace them with something different ,I was sad but that was about it
  Alhamdulillah I missed the rest of this ,also TC69 seems like a smug condescending jerk
  
  Alhamdulillah I missed the rest of this ,also TC69 seems like a smug condescending jerk
  :yea: I don't really get the celebrity culture we have here for some posters
- Yup, this is less of an apology and self-crit than it is just a rephrasing of why the site is being forced to accept the changes coming down the pipe. "Your community my choice." Not to mention the use of "gossip" again and trying to make that horseshit decision work.
- Reading comprehension
  Quit infantilising people for not sharing your point of view. People do not have to write out a long explanation for something that has already been explained, yet @AcidSmiley@hexbear.net did do so. That post has been up for a good amount of time, yet you decide to write this short and needlessly hostile response instead of engaging with her text. Either because you do not care about what you claim to care about or because you yourself lack basic reading comprehension skills.
  It's a poor choice of words but it shouldn't be a difficult concept for supposed Marxists to understand that anyone can contribute to white supremacy, heteronormativity, and patriarchy.
  That's not what is being said by ZL however. I wish you were able to continue this line of thought and investigate your own behaviour.
  
  joined 3mo ago
  I am not asking them to grovel. I am asking them to take some basic accountability for an event that came close to destroying the site by promoting themselves to poster.

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