Kamala Harris’ call for ‘reproductive freedom’ means restoring Roe
Kamala Harris’ call for ‘reproductive freedom’ means restoring Roe
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So why hasn’t Biden?
Kind of tough when Republicans are in charge of the house of representatives.
No I mean the title implies as though she can restore roe. If she can do it why can’t Biden? Answer is either Biden doesn’t want to or he can’t and it will be the same for Kamala
Neither of them can executive action it into being but if Harris wins in November there's a non-zero chance for downballot wins that give Democrats the house and allow for legislation protecting reproductive rights.
Last I checked, the house of representatives doesn't keep him from speaking out and pushing the issue.
I know you're a troll, but just in case someone well meaning stumbles across this, Biden has called for this so many times.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/state-of-the-union-2024/
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-06-27/trump-biden-abortion-presidential-debate
This took about three minutes to find, all from 2024.
He is also literally speaking on it this very moment, as I type this, in a speech marking the anniversary of the civil rights movement.
I never made any claim that he wasn't pushing the issues, but cool. I was merely rebutting the reply above mine.
Maybe don't defend someone implying that he's not pushing the issue next time.
So why hasn't Biden?
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Last I checked, the house of representatives doesn't keep him from speaking out and pushing the issue.
This you?
I never made any claim that he wasn't pushing the issues
This too?
Actually NO! That "So why hasn't Biden" IS NOT ME...
For fucks sake. Can you people get a grip? Read the damn user names.
And the second and third quotes, that were you?
Take the goddamn L, man. You made a statement in ignorance, you were wrong, and you were given evidence showing you were wrong. Accept it, learn from your mistake, and be better in the future.
My comment was about restoring Roe and you said there's nothing stopping him from speaking out about it. Which he is doing. So I'm not really sure what you were rebutting.
I was rebutting the reply saying that The House of Representatives was stopping him from speaking about it...holy crap can you guys not follow a comment thread correctly or something? I'm literally saying the same thing you are, but because some numb-nuts didn't check the names in the threads and called me a troll I get dogpiled?
You people are what's wrong with Lemmy.
You might want to try following the thread a little better if that's what you think is happening here.
I'm the person you originally responded to. I said Biden hasn't restored Roe because of the house. I though it would be clear from context since he is speaking about it.
If everyone misunderstood you then maybe the problem isn't with them.
If that is what you were trying to say you expressed yourself poorly. It's possible to clarify your position without ranting at other people for your mistake.
If everyone made the mistake that the first reply wasn't me, and it's clearly visible - yet numerous people are attributing that original comment to me -- that doesn't mean I'm wrong because a mass of morons piled on.
Your argument is an "Appeal to popularity", and is one of the fallacies people commonly make when discussing things.
I didn't think you were the same person as the first reply, but it sure sounded like you were agreeing with them.
Your argument is an "Appeal to popularity", and is one of the fallacies people commonly make when discussing things.
This comment is a "fallacy fallacy," and is one of the fallacies people commonly make when they first learn about fallacies.
If an argument is a fallacy that doesn't mean the conclusion is wrong.
Just because an argument takes the appearance of a fallacy doesn't mean it is one.The situation is you made a post expressing a point of view, and it was interpreted as expressing the opposite. So either you expressed yourself poorly or those misunderstanding lack reading comprehension.
The number of people who misunderstood your intent is relevant evidence for you expressing yourself poorly. So is the lack of other posts that have had a large number of people misunderstand.
But let's say your right, all these people are morons. Surprisingly, ranting "you're all morons, stop being morons" is ineffective at helping morons understand or prevent them from being morons in the future. Clarifying your intention and adjusting how you communicate so the morons can understand you will fix both of these issues.
Clarifying your intention and adjusting how you communicate is also an effective solution if the problem was indeed you expressing yourself poorly.
So either way, your ranting about people being morons is further evidence that other people are not the problem here.
Guess you missed the part where I first described HOW you were wrong, and then added on that the argument was ALSO a fallacy at the end. Pointing out the fallacy does not in itself make my argument the fallacy fallacy. But hey, you weren't smart enough to understand any of that anyways. The fallacy fallacy is if I were saying you were wrong simply because of your argumentative fallacy. All I did was point it out at the end as a notation.
Also, love the alts. Getting a rapid number of downvotes all at once like that, this deep in the thread means you're either a: really pissed, or b: coordinating with others, it's hilarious.
Don't worry too much about it. You're being dogpiled because that's what lemmy's centrists do when they encounter someone who isn't cheering loudly enough for Biden.
Yeah, the people who moved over here generally seem to be way more extremist than normal. Reddit is bad because of the mods, for sure -- But the same people who left reddit because it was 'getting so bad' just pull the same shit here.
Last I checked, being either disingenuous or a moron doesn't prevent you from using Google to look up whether or not Biden failire in calling for the restoration of roe you're implying is true.
I mean It's not like I'm claiming you're a disingenuousmoron who can't use Google, right?
Funny how that works
Alright, then you strongly implied Biden doesn't speak out about that. There's been many people on abortion related threads who falsely say or imply that, and I don't know any other way someone could reasonably read your comment. It's still there to place an edit afterwards if you'd like to clarify what you meant exactly.
I didn't imply anything, the guy I replied to did! And here you are all jumping my ass about it. I don't need to edit shit; you need to stop jumping to conclusions.
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You're the one who got it wrong, pal. I was saying the same thing, that Biden isn't stopped by the house of representatives to speak out on the issue.
Neither of the replies above that are me. So maybe stop attacking people.
never made any claim that he wasn’t pushing the issues,
So why hasn’t Biden?
lol
To be fair, that was a different person.
That wasn't me. The person below that said that Biden wasn't pushing the issues because of the house of representatives; and I simply said that's not stopping him...
No.
I said Biden hasn't restored Roe because of the house of representatives.
In March:
Tonight, President Biden will again call on Congress to restore the protections of Roe v. Wade in federal law so women in every state have the freedom to make deeply personal health care decisions. And the Biden-Harris Administration will continue to take executive action to protect access to reproductive health care, including through ongoing implementation of the President’s three Executive Orders and a Presidential Memorandum issued since the Court overturned Roe v. Wade. To date, the Administration has taken action to:
- Protect access to abortion, including FDA-approved medication abortion;
- Defend access to emergency medical care;
- Support the ability to travel for reproductive health care;
- Strengthen access to high-quality, affordable contraception;
- Safeguard the privacy of patients and health care providers; and
- Ensure access to accurate information and legal resources.
biden's not running LOL