I don't see why. I'm not saying what happened to him was deserved. I'm just saying that expecting a country like Qatar, with a not short list of human rights violations (among the things) , accepts they violated human rights of a gay foreigner (and yeah, this is relevant for a country that hates both gays and foreigners) is unreasonable.
You're hyperfocusing on criticizing the man who was just tortured for being gay instead of looking at the broader context of what happened, or trying to consider how you would react in that situation. Being victimised in this way is absolutely fucking horrible, and it fucks you up forever. I reacted very similarly to situations where I was victimised for being queer, and those were nothing like what this man has been through.
It's impossible to imagine what this man has been through in any meaningful way, but you should take a bit to just think about what this man went through, how badly he's been hurt to need to go to Qatar to find work, and the defeat he must feel knowing that he is forever changed by an experience that nobody will recognize or do anything about.
Are you really that blind to not understand that endorsing this kind of behaviour will cause more death?
You're not going to change Qatar laws. They are a shithole country that kills queer people just because they are queer.
Becoming a victim doesn't grant you the right of not being criticised. In 2024, nobody should be tortured by being queer, but he did something extremely stupid, and nobody should encourage it.
I said nothing about condoning, I asked you to empathize with a man who was just tortured. The fact that you're getting so upset over that says a lot about you. There's a reason you like to criticize the gay man and not the homophobic government that tortures people.
I think you're misunderstanding me explaining in detail my point of view with being upset.
I'm not upset at all. As a matter of fact, I don't even know the guy, so why should I? Something that shouldn't happen in 2024, happened. And it's regrettable.
At the same time, it was something completely avoidable. So while I regret this thing happened because it shouldn't, I can't help but to point out how stupid it was to suffer this from a totally avoidable situation.
And I think it's kinda fucked up that you're clearly bothered that this man said he was disappointed with how he was treated but you don't care about how he was treated. You can say you're not upset as much as you want but the fact is that you've literally been victim blaming him for over an hour now. You can just say you don't like queers, you don't need to beat around the bush.
Mate, it really seems you are the one very bothered for the point of view of an internet stranger. Especially when all I said to cause you this is that it's unreasonable to expect that a country like Qatar accepts they violated human rights.
Nah you victim blamed a man who was just tortured. I said it was a fucked up opinion and you doubled down. All he said was that he was "disappointed" and you got mad about that for some reason. He's literally not even "expecting" anything, he just said he was disapointed.
Again, mate, I think you're the only one mad here. I never victim blamed him. But of course, I'm not responsible of what you understand, that's entirely on you.
Is he to blame for being gay? Absolutely not. Fuck anyone thinking this.
Could he have chosen a country to work in that wasn't a shithole place with a liking for killing gays and fucking human rights? And is it reasonable to expect that a country like Qatar respects human rights?
I'm not sure you know anything at all about the shithole of a country this guy decided to go to work.
Could he have chosen a country to work in that wasn’t a shithole place with a liking for killing gays and fucking human rights? And is it reasonable to expect that a country like Qatar respects human rights? I’m not sure you know anything at all about the shithole of a country this guy decided to go to work.
He never said anything about expecting Qatar to respect human rights, you're just making things up to hate on the gay man now.
I’m not sure you know anything at all about the shithole of a country this guy decided to go to work.
Earlier you said that Mexico and the UK have better opportunities for gays but both of those countries have attrocious records for gay rights. You're accusing me of "not knowing" about Qatar but you clearly don't know what you're talking about. The way you keep saying "shithole country" like Trump sure does make it sound like you just hate faggots and brown people.
I mean, if you make an appeal and end up disappointed because the country doesn't see any kind of violation to human rights... How do you call that?
Oh, and I never said Mexico or UK were better places for him, I said he is British-Mexican, so he probably had better places to go. He has two nationalities, so two different passports, and if he went to Qatar, he probably had the knowledge to work at any country that accepts citizens from both Mexico and UK.
Lastly, yeah, Qatar is a shithole country, and the only thing you need to know this is that no decent country makes being gay a crime.