Judge James Donato plans to dismantle Google's Android app store monopoly following a federal jury's ruling, rejecting Google's claims that opening the store to rivals would be too burdensome and proposing strict oversight to ensure compliance.
Judge James Donato intends to dismantle Google’s Android app store monopoly, following an earlier ruling declaring it illegal.
Google argued that opening its store to competitors would be too costly and complex, but the judge dismissed this claim, emphasizing that barriers will be removed.
Proposed remedies include banning discriminatory practices against rival app stores and setting up a committee to monitor compliance and report regularly.
It doesn't, although Epic simultaneously sued Apple over this in a separate suit. Their arguments against Google and Apple were different, and in the Apple case the judge sided with Apple on practically every count.
Notably, the one aspect that was not ruled in Apple's favor was their "anti-steering" policy, which prohibited developers from informing users about different app stores or payment methods within an iOS app. The crux of the ruling boiled down to Apple not having a monopoly over the smartphone market or mobile gaming in general since people can "just" go out and buy an Android device and do business with Google instead (while avoiding mention that Google has near identical policies re: the Play store and takes the same cut of a developer's revenue).
Needless to say, pretty much every sane person on Earth plus a pretty wide spread of other tech companies can clearly see that the ruling in the Epic v. Apple case was complete bullshit, especially in light of this ruling in the Google one.
You've always been able to side load apps you are correct.
However, this is not what Google wants. Over the years, Google has started to enforce more restrictions on third-party applications. They've been slowly making these options more difficult to find in the settings of certain OEMs. Just because they give you the freedom, doesn't always mean they care.
But yes you are correct that Apples monopoly on their app store is way worse. But Google would absolutely remove more user choice settings if certain things like the GPL didn't stand in the way of the Android OS.
If Android had never been open-sourced, they would absolutely not have any options for third party installations mark my words.
They only thing standing in their way is Linux and the GPL.
Google is just as malicious as Apple. They are just better at hiding it.
Google is just as malicious as Apple. They are just better at hiding it.
I feel like they came from a position where that wasn't immediately transitionable.
Even tho Apple comes from a BSD background, it seems like Google was more core to the internet and open-source background when they first released Android.
Since then, they have slowly transitioned all of their captured market to more closed ecosystems. But they have done it slowly out of fear of shedding their more devoted original followers (I dunno how to phrase that).
These days, I agree that Google is predatory as fuck. In some ways, Google is better than Apple, but Apple is better than Google in others. Neither are clean in regards to user privacy or security.
I really hope the recent rumblings of a lawsuit against Google regarding OS attestation becomes a real thing and goes through. This would allow things like OS projects like GrapheneOS to provide even better user experience. I would hope that this could then be leveraged against iOS.
I can't wait for the plateau where software and hardware is generic enough (well, for phones) that OS and hardware can be actually created by separate projects/companies.
Here’s a comment from yesterday that explains it much better than I could. Quick and dirty tldr is that this has nothing to do with consumer impact, it’s like a business to business thing.
Side question, is anyone aware of how to properly link comments on lemmy? I know I can link communities with !technology@lemmy.world and users with @borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com, but I’ve just realized I have no idea how to post instance agnostic links to comments or posts.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions! I had found that GitHub issue and actually tried the tilde link even though there’s no commits that mention it, just because the bang and at formatting work.
I do mainly use the Arctic app to interact with lemmy which also handles the url in app fine, but I like to do things the “right” way whenever possible.
I’m not sure what your question here is? I wanted to link to this community, since I’m here and it’s just an example. You have to include the instance after the community regardless of your own home instance, so an example for you that isn’t on your home instance would be !cybersecurity@sh.itjust.works.
If all you see is what you typed, maybe your app is being weird because you and this community are on the same instance? If that’s the case I typed !technology@lemmy.world.
dude complaining about apple being proprietary in 2024, when apple has built their entire business from day one by being the most draconian closed loop proprietary hardware/software model since personal computers were invented. i mean, sure, i get it's annoying bullshit, but you're literally getting what you signed up for when you decided apple was the way to go, lol. i hope this android/google action will lead to opening up the apple ecosystem as well, but i wouldn't use any of their bullshit if you paid me, i remember the days of the ibm clones, and apple telling us all to go fuck ourselves.
Who cares about what you or me like to use? The point is that Google is under fire for their closed system while Apple is far stricter. They should be the first to get forced to open up.
Since this is happening in a specific country, we need to look at the numbers from there. Not some average over the world. Obviously with most people being poor they are not going to have an iPhone.
Sidenote: those clones, and eventually the entire standard PC architecture we know and love today, were possible because IBM fucked up and used common, off the shelf components, with the only proprietary item being their BIOS, which was quickly reverse-engineered. It's not like IBM wanted to shower the world in third party PCs that weren't theirs. That's why they tried again to lock down the market with the PS/2, but failed to dislodge the PC.
In a different universe, we might all be using Acorn or Amiga today.
As someone else who has never owned an Apple device, only watched other people using them. What the fuck are you on about?
Are you seriously complaining about people complaining that Google's main rival seems to be immune from the same punishments, despite the fact that they, as you have said, are the most draconian and locked down system? Do you not see why this might be a relevant problem that Apple is just immune to legal repercussions because "lmao they've always been evil 🙈"?
Dude complaining about a dude complaining about apple being proprietary in 2024, when apple has built their entire business from day one by being the most draconian closed loop proprietary hardware/software model since personal computers were invented........
You just made the same argument, but in an aggressively dumb way.
Everything you do to become a monopoly is legal (or at least should be - there are lots of illegal things you can do along the way but for discussion lets assume/pretend they don't do those things). However it is not legal to be a monopoly.
So if something is shitty, the solution would be to shut up about it and pray that the 40%+ of the world who buys the shitty thing suddenly has an epiphany that they've been buying shitty things? Excellent logic.
Ok... the off-the-cuff number was not the point in the least. The point is that MILLIONS of people happily use those shitty products and they're not going to just suddenly stop doing so.
But sure, all that matters here is that you despise americans.
Umm... I am an American, and never said anything about hating the place. I dislike the American attitude I encounter daily that everything happening here has more importance and everywhere else is irrelevant.
If I was really as "America centric" as you think I would've said 60%. I'm sorry if you think my meaningless stab in the dark to make a completely different point means that you think I don't care about the rest of the world. It doesn't.
Either way, you missed the point if all you're focused on is a random guess that wasn't even meant to be accurate. The fact that it was a round even number without a source is a clue that it was a guess.