Supporters of Israel's actions in Gaza - why do you think the Geneva convention should not apply?
Supporters of Israel's actions in Gaza - why do you think the Geneva convention should not apply?
The Geneva convention was established to minimise atrocities in conflicts. Israeli settlements in Gaza are illegal and violate the Geneva convention. Legality of Israeli settlements Article 51 of the Geneva convention prohibits indiscriminate attacks on civilian population yet Israel attacked hospitals with children inside. Whether you agree or not that Hamas were present, children cannot be viewed as combatants.so when no care was taken to protect them, does this not constitute a violation? According to save the children, 1 in 50 children in Gaza had been killed or injured. This is a very high proportion and does not show care being taken to prevent such casualties and therefore constitutes a violation.
So my question is simply, do supporters of Israel no longer support our believe in the Geneva convention, did you never, or how do you reconcile Israeli breaches of the Geneva convention? For balance I should add "do you not believe such violations are occurring and if so how did you come to this position?"
Answers other than only "they have the right to go after Hamas " please. The issue is how they are going after Hamas, not whether they should or not.
EDIT: Title changed to remove ambiguity about supporting Israel vs supporting their actions
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This is a loaded question. It pretends every supporter of Israel also supports the current government, the illegal occupation, the ongoing war, and throwing the Geneva convention out.
I support Israel's right to exist as a sovereign state and a homeland for the Jewish people.
But I support none of the above.
And no, I don't have a good solution for this age-old conflict either.
a homeland for the Jewish people.
Weird way to call a stolen property lol
Everywhere has been stolen, not to excuse the bullshit happening on the West Bank but still
Yes but my tax money paid today didn't support other crimes. They do support Israel and indont like it.
Well you’re part of the brainbin. What’s your ideal solution?
US taxpayer's opinion on the issue is not material to the genocide being done. Best a peasant can do is say they don't support the genocide or the country doing it.
Israel will pay for this down the road. People who did not know wtf that trash was, surely learning now.
Remember USS Liberty.
Israel will pay for this down the road. People who did not know wtf that trash was, surely learning now.
Well you’re not wrong there. I’ve certainly tried to educate myself more regarding this decades old conflict because of the current nonsense.
Until Oct 6 i was larping normie stream propaganda about "NEVER AGAIN" and "its their land anyway, trust me bro"... but no more!
It's not stolen. Brief history lesson:
The lands of Israel and Jordan used to be part of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans sided with the Nazis.
Brief aside: we know the Arabs believe that if you win a war, you win the land, and if you lose a war, you lose the land, because that's what they want to happen with Israel. So this principle applies to them as well.
When the Nazis lost, the Ottomans also lost, and that's where the British and French Mandates began. The land was no longer owned by the Arabs because, according to the principle they live by, they lost the war, therefore they lost the land.
The British Mandate for Palestine comprised an amount of previously Ottoman land, of which they allocated one third to the new country Israel (which includes Gaza and the West Bank), and two thirds to the new country Transjordan, later renamed Jordan. The land of Israel was not stolen by the Jews from the Arabs, it was lost by the Arabs in a war they lost. But they got two thirds of that land back, i.e. Jordan.
The Ottoman empire sided with the Nazis?
How has no one commented on this ahistorical nonsense.
The Ottoman empire dissolved in 1922.
After The Great War aka World War One, the British took over the area called Mandatory Palestine in 1920.
Everything about this post is insanely wrong.
It's remarkable how respectful you are of Arab views that you don't also hold but which happen to be convenient for you.
Israel forcefully displaced Palestinians and moved in "lord's chosen" people to live there.
I am not sure what else to call it lol
Good thing is that people are wising up about how israel came to be and public opinion is turning against the genocide state and its parasitic relationship with the US.
One day Israel will pay for this once US stops protecting it. And many people will say FAFO
The Jewish homeland was formed by killing and kicking out people who were living there.
I think this comment wasn't supposed to be an argument for the existence of Israel, but rather directed at the initial premise. They are challenging the assumption that support for the Israeli state and support for the conflict in Gaza are one in the same.
As were most countries.
And the Jewish people were killed and kicked out everywhere they lived for centuries prior to that.That not Palestinians fault.
Why not give Jews half of Germany?
As a German, I'd be fine with that. They can have the Eastern half.
Or Sitka, Alaska?
I read the book because my wife is from Sitka. Apparently there is a disproportionately large Jewish population in real life as well, though not nearly like in the book.
That's how it should have been handled tbh
P.s. I updated the title to make it clearer that I do not wish to conflate the two
I did not mean to imply that supporting Israel's right to exist as a state means you must support their actions or vice versa. It is not intended to be a loaded question.
So as an alternative question so someone who sounds reasonable (it is the Internet after all!), what are your thoughts on a 2-state solution, or Israel’s expansion into the West Bank?
Ignoring of course the fact that a 2-state solution will never ever happen.
The most optimistic resolution to this conflict would be the German/French model. 2 states that have been arch-enemies for over a millennium forged a close bond and lasting partnership within just one generation after WW2.
But I don't think this is possible before both countries are completely exhausted or destroyed by the war, and a strong party from outside (likely the US again) steps in and forces them into a pact.A one-state solution would be unthinkable and completely without historical precedent, unless Israel either declares Palestine to be dissolved and rules over the land with an iron fist, or is itself wiped off the map.