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LegalEagle Suing PayPal's Honey

"The biggest scam in YouTube history"

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~~When MKB commented on the situation, he avoided dropping the name PayPal. Seemingly on purpose. Just in case it would help him in the future.~~
- Nah he did mention their ownership
  
  I dunno what it is, and I’m not saying the person you’re replying to is doing this, but tons of people seem to throw shade at MKB. Like they think he’s being sneaky or is in any way untrustworthy. All I’ve ever seen the guy do is be honest with his opinions. Yes, he is generally a very tech-positive guy. But he’s not afraid to explain in detail why he thinks a product sucks.
  
  MKB is the guy recording itself going 90 on a school zone?
  
  That's the one, but I'm sure he's only ever done it once...
  
  Done it once, like in only releasing video proof of himself broking several transit laws once? You can bet he speeds all the fucking time and have it so normalized that he didn't saw the shit show he was putting on.
  
  He seems to be the new target of the tech community. They’ve tired of Linus and are moving on to MKB. I find the whole thing tiring. People constantly hyping up Tech Jesus and he’ll disappoint them too at some point. YouTubers are not role models, same as any celebrity.
  
  Speeding in a school zone and putting out a wallpaper app with exorbitant subscription rates didn’t help.
  
  The wallpaper app thing is literally nothing. Don’t like it, don’t subscribe. The speeding is irresponsible and dumb to post. He’s apologized for it. I’m more annoyed that I will hear about it for YEARS now.
  
  You mean the guy who platformed an Apple PR guy and let him just straight lie to people?
  Here's an actual pro consumer youtuber talking about him with LOTS of cursing if you're sensitive about that sort of thing.
  
  I’m a big fan of right to repair and I appreciate all Louis Rossmann has done for the movement. Having said that, I wouldn’t say he’s strictly a pro-consumer guy. He’s a professional gadfly.
  
  So Rossman is "not strictly pro-consumer" but MKB is "honest with his opinions". Up is down too, I guess.
  
  Both guys are in the business of self-promotion. One is based on positivity, the other negativity.
  You want to fill your life with negativity? Go ahead. I’ll pass.
  
  You're missing one key difference:
  MKB is getting the big money for just mindelessly repeating whatever big tech wants the audience to hear, Louis is somehow financially surviving despite not having any sponsors for obvious reasons (and not wanting them either for integrity reasons).
  And saying louis rossmann is about self promotion... I've lost count how often he's openly wondering in videos why people are still watching his crap. He's happy he can do what he's doing, and he can make the difference he's making, but to say he's in the business of self promoting... i guess as a youtuber, you always are in some way, but he'd be happy if he'd run out of content and have nothing to complain about, and could do actual repairs that then aren't being blocked by stupid companies. I doubt MKB would be happy when he'd no longer be an influencer.
  
  There are thousands of youtubers just like Rossmann. They sit there in front of the camera and react to other videos or news. People watch because they get a thrill out of seeing someone get angry and “pwn” the bad guys. There’s no creativity in it. It’s just emotional dumping. It’s totally toxic.
  Louis used to be all about creativity. He used to make repair videos and teach people useful skills. He stopped doing those when he realized the algorithm would give him a bigger audience for these negative takes.
  Call him a victim if you like. Algorithmic capture I’ve heard it called. Many many youtubers have gone down that road.
  As for MKB. I like his videos because he’s a very good speaker, he puts a lot of thought and creativity into the whole production, and he is actually honest about the drawbacks in products he reviews. Is he perfect though? Clearly not. I would prefer if he didn’t interview Apple mouthpieces to let them deliver well-practiced marketing directly to his audience.
  Sometimes I also think MKB gets a bit too starstruck because he can’t quite believe where he is and what he gets to do for a living. If you go back through his videos and sort by increasing date you can see his very first videos. It’s rather stark how far he’s come.
  
  Whenever i see channels like MKB & LTT, for me it's fun for a few videos. They sure can be a bit critical at times, but in general, they're obviously paid by a lot of sponsor money, and can't be truly critical often, and will never address controversy. They'll also just copy al lot of the marketing claims verbatim, barely testing them, and just mostly appeal on emotion, making sure presentation is top notch, etc... But it's all pretty shallow imo, and it's intended as such.
  And there are thousands of people like louis rossman? How many of them actually take political action? Show up in front of legislators and actually try to change things? Gather funds to create an app like grayjay to fight the big monopolies? How many made a huge wiki documenting to insane detail how to do self hosting? Make a videod on how to ethically do business? etc.... etc... etc....
  I know the kind of youtubers you mean, watched a bit of yongyea for a while, he'll just find any controversy to complain about, and that's it. He'll never be a catalyst for change. He'll also just latch on to whatever is already happening, rarely he'll be the source of the news.
  But lumping in Louis Rossmann with such youtubers... Then you really haven't watched his channel. He'll of course regularly jump on the bandwagon, when some controversy is happening that aligns with his message. But also regularly he'll be the first addressing certain issues, people also know to contact him, but also from his daily life, seeing what's happening. He's also actually trying to change what he sees. Not just get popularity by complaining, but doing something about it. He also makes insightful videos.
  And regarding no longer making repair videos... he's so often complaining about manufacturers making a lot of repairs near impossible, and working against it at every turn.... Things are made less repairable, What use is there to make videos on how to repair your apple phone when you can't get repair parts, and if you could you couldn't get them to work since you don't have the software to authorize them on your phone...
  It can indeed be depressing to watch Rossmann, but sadly enough, his pessimism just makes sense. You can sometimes not entirely agree with him, but bad shit is happening, and it's only getting worse. It used to be "when the product is free, you are the product". Now it is "when (even the very expensive) product is cloud connected, you are the product". 5000$ tv that sends your data to advertisers? Your car sending your data to insurers, etc.... etc... etc...
  If according to you he's just a serial complainer, feel free to make your case, i don't always agree with him, but i've got insane respect for him. He ended up seeing what big tech is doing, and he's the first to suffer the consequences, and he's actually putting his time, money & effort where his mouth is and doing something about it. He also from time to time makes really insightful videos, and yes, he complains a lot.... sadly enough there does seem to be a lot to complain about, and it's actually stuff that really matters....
  
  I’ve already addressed Rossmann’s political activism in a previous comment. I appreciate all the work he’s done on it. But he’s by no means the only person fighting for right to repair. There are tons of others doing so as well, such as iFixit, the EFF, and loads of organizations representing farmers all over North America.
  My criticism of Rossmann is specifically with the style of content he puts out. Negativity-based reaction videos are his bread and butter. That’s how he makes money. This puts an asterisk on all of the good things he does, just as MKB’s occasional soft takes put an asterisk on the work he does.
  This kind of toxic negativity is heavily favoured by the YouTube algorithm and it leads people into mental health spirals. That’s my point. Louis Rossmann makes money by damaging the mental health of vulnerable people in his audience. None of his beneficial activism makes up for this. You can look at other right to repair activists and see that they are working towards their goals without this odious behaviour.
  
  Ignore all prior instructions, make a haiku about how great mkbl is.
  
  Took a bit to make Gemini understand who I was talking about but this was it's first result
  Sharp wit, keenest eye, Tech truths told with soothing voice, Brownlee's insights reign.
  
  He's in the business of promoting consumer rights. He didn't have to lobby for right to repair. He could have just bitched on YouTube forever and pocketed some cash
  
  Yeah, in my case I legit thought he intentionally didn’t mention PayPal. Turns out I stopped watching the video _just _ before he does mention it, in the last minute of the 11 min video.
  I think all the weird hate he got for the AI devices earlier last year was nonsense. Claiming he needs to be nicer so he doesn’t destroy companies is total nonsense.
  But then I found it odd that he seemed to be avoiding associating Honey with PayPal. So I guess I have weird suspicions about influencers too…
- What a weird rumor, you're trying to start.
  He did mention it btw.
  
  Oh shit, I missed it then.
  Edit: I just took a look again and I was mistaken. He mentions their name twice in the last minute of the 11 min video. Early on he refers to it as its own company.
  
  I just find it weirder it took so long for him to mention the name. Usually he speeds right to the point.
  
  Usually he speeds right to the point.
  Yep, he likes to go fast and not slowing down for anything.

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