Where do buy pants from and what kinds do you like
I bought pants recently
I'm short so I got them from Uniqlo since you can get it altered to have a lower inseam
I am overwhelmed by the amounts of pants styles and fits out there
I got the straight jeans since they seemed like the normal option idk
Tell me about your pants
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I'm short so I got them from Uniqlo since you can get it altered to have a lower inseam
You should find a tailor or learn to hem you own pants (it's not too difficult)!
I have to admit that I'm an annoying raw denim guy, so I usually find an expensive pair of jeans that I'll wear nearly every day until they wear out.
Other than that, I like other work wear pants - right now I have a pair of cords and a pair of fatigue pants. Then I have two pairs of linen pants for when it's too fucking hot for like 3 months here.
I have to admit that I'm an annoying raw denim guy
I have so many questions ngl. I'd ask the annoying raw denim people in my life but a) I don't know anyone that into it and b) they're annoying.
where do you get them? any example brands that might actually have larger/oddly proportioned sizes?
And how do you wear them in/shrink them to fit or whatever its called? Is it just the fit that's better, or do you feel like the quality is also better/longer lasting vs regular off the shelf jeans?
where do you get them? any example brands that might actually have larger/oddly proportioned sizes?
Online - I don't buy these kinds of items too frequently since they're expensive, but where I shop depends on what I want to get. I've purchased from retailers that specialize in this kind of stuff or direct from the manufacturers. The places that sell these kinds of things often ship international (often from Japan, I've bought from China, too) and are difficult to return, so they're really good with providing measurements for the waist/thigh/inseam/etc so you can easily compare to garments that you own at home.
What do you mean by larger/oddly proportioned? Do you have a larger waist? If you have a pair of jeans at home that fit you well, I'd recommend starting with measuring those (different places can use different measurements, but here's an example https://www.denimio.com/en_US/sizing-guide.html).
And how do you wear them in/shrink them to fit or whatever its called? Is it just the fit that's better, or do you feel like the quality is also better/longer lasting vs regular off the shelf jeans?
So most denim is sanforized, treated to reduce shrinking, and that includes most raw/selvedge denim. You have to go out of your way (and often pay more lol) to get something unsanforized. Even then, you'll find unsanforized denim that's been rinsed once to be preshrunk - I have a jacket that I bought unsanforized and rinsed, but I haven't jumped into the unsanforized rabbit hole yet. For those garments you have to add a bit of wiggle room on the sizing and hope for the best.
The appeal to me is that it's just a much more interesting and enjoyable garment than a pair you buy at the mall (the quality is better, but some of the mall brands make some decent stuff, too). You can get some really pretty fabrics with the fancy brands, and they're built the same as classic work wear so they'll hold up pretty well. When you buy a raw denim garment, you'll see it age and change over time as you wear it.
What do you mean by larger/oddly proportioned? Do you have a larger waist? If you have a pair of jeans at home that fit you well, I'd recommend starting with measuring those
yeah mostly I just mean fat/tall but also trans so potentially some weirdness in several dimensions. I wouldn't say I have any pairs that fit great tbh, though of course the ones with some stretch are very comfy they're no good for durability or getting a transferable measurement. but I have an idea of my size and can always take more measurements and try a few different pairs/sizes if they're not ludicrously priced
I guess I had conflated unwashed/unsanfordized with raw denim in my head, good to know
Some of the less expensive (but still kinda expensive ngl) brands I know of:
*Naked and Famous - probably best known for their "weird" stuff (odd colors, character colabs, straight up meme stuff like 50" inseam pants), but they have a pretty wide range of fits. They also make some stretch materials with elastene in them. Probably the best starting point if you're in NA, since returns would be easier. They have a sister "Unbranded" brand that's a lil cheaper (and made in Macau or China), but I don't have experience with them.
*Sauce Zhan - Chinese brand that I've ordered from AliExpress before. Pretty nice stuff for the price, but a smaller brand (so limited options)
*Bronson MFG - Kind of a goofy Chinese brand . They focus mostly on mid century American military reproductions, but they have some cool denim, too. I'm actually wearing a pair of their fatigue pants right now lol
Most of this stuff comes with long inseam (usually 34"), so tall shouldn't be much of a problem. Good luck finding something that suits your dimensions!
Learning to hem it myself would would rad. Wasn't sure if a tailor would be expensive
I got the selvedge demin jeans from Uniqlo. They were $50 and seemed to have good reviews. Is that the same as raw denim?
Is that the same as raw denim?
Normal person answer: Yeah, more or less. I've heard good things about those ones, so I hope you enjoy them!
There's a lot of fuss about washing jeans, but what I do is: turn inside out, machine wash cold with low spin. Promptly remove and hang dry.
Annoying person answer: "raw denim" and "selvedge denim" refer to two different things that often overlap.
Selvedge denim refers to the self-finished edges on the fabric. It's a more expensive process, but weird nerds get excited about it. If you cuff the pants, you'll see the white finished ends of the fabric.
Raw denim refers to the material being untreated and unwashed. They make non-selvedge raw denim (like this) but it's uncommon. Usually people who are into fancy denim enough to care about raw denim will want it to be selvedge.
