Suddenly seeing more hexbear posts. Did we re-federate with them?
Suddenly seeing more hexbear posts. Did we re-federate with them?
If so, was it polled somewhere?
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Honestly just chat/interact with them. What's the big deal? They seem humorous. Or just block their communities
Just wish I could block their instance and be done with it
How blocking instances isn't a feature baffles me.
Use connect or sync. Other apps probably added that by now too.
Someone’s afraid of socialism
Don't you dare mix up socialism and whatever hexbear is. Socialism =/= genocide denialism or authoritarianism.
According to anti-socialists, that's exactly what it is.
You say they deny genocide a lot in this thread. Can you link even one instance of this?
I mean... It's right here in this discussion
They don't mention the Holocaust or Armenian genocide or the genocide of the indigenous people of the Americas. They’re just talking about China
So they're just denying the Uyghur genocide because it would make a "communist" country look bad but they don't deny the genocides by capitalist countries, so they're ok 👍
A genocide is a genocide is a genocide.
Talking about that, I wonder what's their stance on Tibet, we don't hear about that genocide very often anymore...
Can you provide any evidence of a genocide targeting Uyghurs that isnt sourced from Adrian Zenz, a Holocaust revisionist.
You claim to be a leftist. Read this, parse through the sources, and tell me what you think
Is the US Holocaust Memorial Museum a good source? https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/countries/china/case-study/current-risks/chinese-persecution-of-the-uyghurs
My guy read your own fucking source. Your UN paper doesn't even conclude that China is engaging in Genocide.
I'll add to this - the Holocaust museum features prominently the testimony and picture of Rushan Abbas. She has a long history of activism in China (the details of which are important but we have more immediate concerns), and that lead to a career with... Radio Free Asia... Oh look, there we have another CIA/State Department mouthpiece.
I will further critique the source and echo another commenter saying that they don't have a single link. That page tells a story, but it does not provide any direct sources other than testimony from activists with demonstrable links to RFA.
Is the US Holocaust Memorial Museum a good source?
Seeing as they don’t have a single citation in that entire page, no, it’s not a good source
And this UN article mentions human rights violations, which, fine, nobody is arguing that there aren’t human rights violations in Xinjiang detention centers. But compared to US prisons, these conditions are pleasant. NOTHING in that article is even hinting at genocide. And comparing prison time for 2-18 months to genocide is deeply offensive to peoples who have actually suffered genocide. You sound like a typical white westerner who is trying to whitewash the crimes of your country by projecting them onto other countries
And there it is 🤣
There it is, you failed to engage or respond or argue in any way. How are you this afraid of learning?
Yep, there it is. An article by a modern socialist writer. You can actually read some theory, or you can keep chugging American state department propaganda. Capitalism or socialism? It’s time to decide, America is collapsing and they will engage in a last ditch effort war on China in a feeble attempt to maintain their empire. You can either side with America, repeating western propaganda you see on the “news” and reddit; or you can stand with the workers of the world— the colonized nations and the socialist states that stand up for them. Imperial core and international capital or the periphery and the international proletariat?
What’s your take on white genocide?
They are unbearable human beings.
Unbearable yes. Human beings? I really don’t know…
Yet hexbear users are toxic
Most humans are worse than animals...
Yeah, as long as they don't cause problems, I have no issue with them.
good thing this thread is fully problem free 👍
Making stupid comments isn't a problem, posting stuff that is against the instance's rules is. So if they're harassing people or posting disallowed content or something consistently (more than a handful of individuals), and the admin either refuses or ignores requests to take action, then they should be defederated.
If you have an articulable set of problematic posts that demonstrates that it's not just one a handful of users, post those and we can discuss defederation. If it's urgent (e.g. the instance is under active attack), bring it to the admin's attention immediately.
stupid commentspropagandaOk. But they're very obvious (9/10 times, if they specify pronouns, they are from hexbear), so I'm really not worried about it.
If we could block instances at the user level, I'd probably block them. But I don't think defederating at the instance level is the way to go. Until we have that, I would only support defederation if moderation cannot keep up with the rule breakers (i.e. they automate their propaganda with bot accounts), or if their admins cannot resolve concerns when we raise them.
I don't know if we've reached that standard, so I encourage anyone particularly interested to make a post listing evidence for why we should defederate. I rarely see them on communities I frequent and I can easily ignore them when I do, so to me it's not an issue.
Propaganda is actively, successfully dismantling democracies around the world and supporting the rise of authoritarianism.
If you like having representation in your government you should stand up and defend that right.
It's a double edged sword. One person's "propaganda" is another person's freedom of speech. Instead of silencing views, we should be combating them with facts, that is the way a free society works.
I'm not saying we should give intolerance a platform, I'm saying we should be hesitant to silence views we disagree with. Reveal the hate and block it for what it is, don't just call stuff you disagree with "propaganda" and move on.
So no, I disagree. Silencing speech is what causes democracies to fail.
This isn't "one person's propaganda", this is an organized effort by a powerful authoritarian government to destabilize democracies.
"Combating with facts" doesn't work, they'll just try to engage you and waste your time. If you make a great point, they'll never admit your right, they'll just post a meme or picture to try to turn it into a joke.
organized effort by a powerful authoritarian government
Source?
And if they respond with a meme, I just downvote and move on. If I notice the same person doing it multiple times, I'll block them.