Privacy @lemmy.ml Zoë @lemmy.ml 3 yr. ago

Your thoughts on CloudFlare

I hear that both CloudFlare is privacy respectful and that it spies on site visitors (with their CDN). What's your thoughts on this matter?

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It was hilarious when r/firefox banned me for 6 months for criticising use of Cloudflare DNS few days ago here https://teddit.net/r/firefox/comments/mkig88/_/gtlj3hl?context=10000 ~~(teddit or libreddit or kddit cannot handle contexts)~~

The moderator there is likely evangelised, beware. Always debloat Firefox or Ungoogled Chromium or Pale Moon and use it, and use these over any Chromium forks.
- ehm, is it just me or teddit openned this context properly?
  
  I may not have used teddit in the past few weeks, they handle it correctly now. Thanks.
- Firefox dev team are jerks, I use Librewolf that is a more secure and private fork of firefox.
  
  Librewolf is essentially a Firefox with user.js tweaks , and the fork will not last forever compared to the main thing. That is why I prefer modifying Firefox myself.
- It's entirely on you. You brought some valid points about how awful Cloudflare is, but that's not what got you banned. Your baseless claim of Cloudflare DoH somehow MITM SSL is. You are indeed spreading some FUD, even here by strawmanning what exactly you got banned for
  
  So you believe Cloudflare is a good company with a good intent? That seems like corporate apologia, since you want to twist my argument into muh FUD.
  
  So you believe Cloudflare is a good company with a good intent?
  
  Thanks for putting words in my mouth despite me explicitly agreeing that Cloudflare is awful.
  
  If that's how you argue with everyone no wonder you are getting banned. The Mod that argued with you on Reddit had a patience of saint
  
  Do not give me this false equivalence spaghetti argument crap. Supremacists do the same thing of "I hate these X people but I love all Y people".
  
  You should check that moderator's history of censoring Firefox critics, but I am probably hoping uselessly. https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/msscqv/the_messages_from_firefox_subsection_now_shows/ Use removeddit and feel free to look around.
  
  In this reply,
  
  You imply that they believe something they never said
  
  You say without evidence that it is likely corporate apologia, and
  
  then accuse THEM off twisting YOUR words.
  
  Very impressive.
  
  In their reply,
  
  They implied that they think I believe a narrative that I never promoted
  
  They imply without evidence that Cloudflare has good intentions when its basis of existence is as Project Honeypot
  
  then create a FUD strawman and justify ban when the voting ratio on the comments and in the post indicate a different kind of dialogue
  
  totally ignore that my job is privacy and security advocacy, and make it a point to leverage Cloudflare over all the historical and current concerns that loom around them
  
  Awesome. I can play these pony tricks all day.