Ukraine war: Zelensky says Israel-Gaza conflict taking focus away from fighting
Ukraine war: Zelensky says Israel-Gaza conflict taking focus away from fighting
One of Russia's goals is to draw global attention away from the war in Europe, says Ukraine's president.
The Israel-Gaza war is "taking away the focus" from the conflict in Ukraine, the country's President Volodymyr Zelensky has admitted.
He said this was "one of the goals" of Russia, which launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.
And he denied that fighting in Ukraine had reached a stalemate, despite a recent assessment to this effect by the country's top military general.
Ukraine's counter-offensive in the south has so far made little headway.
This has prompted fears of war fatigue among Kyiv's Western allies, with suggestions of growing reluctance in some capitals to continue giving Ukraine advanced weapons and funds.
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I hate to say it, but within minutes of hearing about the attack by Hamas against Israel, the unexpectedness of it, and the scale of it, I asked myself, “Who’s funding this,” and, “Who gains by this?” And my brain replied, “Putin.”
Sure enough within days his puppets in our government (the USofA GOP) start talking about reducing/stopping aid to Ukraine.
Republicans were complaining about aid to Ukraine long before this. Russia is not as sophisticated a puppet master as you think.
While I agree immediately jumping to "Russia is backing this" is a small leap, this is hardle sophisticated, and hardly new. Russia and the US jave been involved in proxy wars for decades. Literally as long as either has been around, more or less, but pretty open about it since the cold war.
And hamas officials meeting with putin in Russia doesn't sell the "Russia isn't behind it" story either.
I believe it's certainly possible, if not probable, but given tensions in the are never easy in occupied Palestine, it's no surprise an oppressed people hit back once in awhile. It doesn't take much prodding.
Not to mention that we already know that Iran has been backing Hamas for decades, and Iran and Russia are allies.
I'm pretty sure Iran arranged the attack, but Russia is definitely benefiting. That's not an accident
Aren't Iran and Russia buddies?
Iran's only buddy is Iran. They tolerate Russia because they're not the West and because Russia enjoys their saber-rattling.
A superficial alliance based on circumstances.
They're allies because they have a lot of shared interests.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
It's more complex than that, Israel and Russia have much more common geopolitical interest than you might expect if you follow analists: in Sirya for example. This while still having opposite positions about Iran. It's just a mess.
My college nickname was the analist.
because you always took it rectally?
yes
The most likely intention for the brutality of the terror attack from October was stopping the diplomatic processes between Israel and other Arab countries to establish somewhat normal relations. Putin and Iran are definitely indirect beneficiaries, but there's no need to create narratives where Hamas is the puppet of Iran or Russia because they did something that was aligned with their own interests.
I can't presume what you know or have heard, but Hamas is playing ball with Putin.
Sure enough within days his puppets in our government (the USofA GOP) start talking about reducing/stopping aid to Ukraine.
I mean, not to say you're wrong exactly, but that's not a new thing. Those same people have been demanding the same for a year and a half. Using Israel as their current excuse doesn't mean much, just that they're opportunistic shits, which isn't really news.
Plus Biden's proposed answer to this was basically just to double down on continuing aid to Ukraine, the aid package he requested for Israel also had a significant sum for Ukraine.
Russia seems determined to relearn the mistakes that lost them the cold war the first time around, that America wipes its ass with more money than you can afford to throw at proxies, and that doing so isn't even close to its largest military expense.
It's not just Putin, there's clear alliances forming: Russia, Iran, North Korea, Syria, China. Hamas was financed and trained by Iran, who have themselves been significantly supported by Russia. It seems that all MAD is doing is limiting the growing conflict to a Proxy World War.
Yeah I knew from the moment it happened that Putin was behind it. It's a distraction from a much more important war.
The one benefiting is actually Eroupe. Check the companies that can explore gas field in Isreal as of October 27, 2023
Check? Cite us some sources.
Just write in google Isreal Gas:
And here opinion article about it: https://www.planetcritical.com/p/everybody-wants-gazas-gas
And there more, including the Map they display during UN assembly calling for "The new middle East" and the agreement they signed with Lebanon, although Hizbollah control the government there. February of this year.
5 minutes search would reveal more..
It's really the greatest example of fuck around find out.
Punch someone in the head and they turn around and belt you, you kind of deserve it.
Punch someone in the head and now they're justified to bomb your entire city.
Hammas bombed Israel first
Israel was bombing Hamas for 15 years. Does your history start at October? Nonetheless this example is about killing civilians instead of the enemy and how it doesn't accomplish anything.
I really don’t think that’s what’s being said here.