Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI?
Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI?
Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI (Artificial Intelligence)?
Real AI does not exist yet,
atm we only have LLMs (Large Language Models),
which do not think on their own,
but pass turing tests
(fool humans into thinking that they can think).
Imo AI is just a marketing buzzword,
created by rich capitalistic a-holes,
who already invested in LLM stocks,
and now are looking for a profit.
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Of course we have “real” AI. We can literally be surprised while talking to these things.
People who claim it’s not general AI consistently, 100% of the time, fail to answer this question: what can a human mind do that these cannot?
In precise terms. You say “a human mind can understand” then I need a precise technical definition of “understand”. Because the people making this claim that “it’s not general AI” are always trying to wave their own flag of technical expertise. So, in technical terms, what can a general AI do, that an LLM cannot?
Go and tell your LLM to click a button, or log into your Amazon account, or send an email, or do literally anything that's an action. I'm waiting.
A 4 year old has more agency than your "AI" nowadays. LLMs are awesome at spitting out text, but they aren't true AI.
Edit: I should add, LLMs only work with input. If there's no input there is no output. So whatever you put in there, it will just sit there forever doing nothing until you give it an input again. It's much closer to a mathematical function than any kind of intelligence that has its own motivation and can act on its own.
send an email
chatGPT can explain me what to do in cli to send an e-mail. Give it access to a cli and an internet connection and it will be able to do it itself
Exactly. Someone demonstrated an “AI that can turn on your lights” and then had a script checking for output like {turnOnLights} and translating that to API calls
Which again is literally just text and nothing more.
No matter how sophisticated ChatGPT gets, it will never be able to send the email itself. Of course you could pipe the output of ChatGPT into a cli, then tell ChatGPT to only write bash commands (or whatever you use) with every single detail involved and then it could possibly send an email (if you're lucky and it only uses valid commands and literally no other text in the output).
But you can never just tell it: Send an email about x, here is my login and password, send it to whatever@email.com with the subject y.
Not going to work.
All it lacks is an API that allows it to send commands. This is not a limitation of its intelligence, if it "knows" when to put text in a bash codebox, it will know when to send an API call.
Ask your brain to click a button, it cannot either, all it does is sending and receiving electric signals. Fortunately, it is surrounded by a body that reacts to these signals.
Go tell a kalahari bushman to click a button, or log into your amazon account, or send an email, or literally anything you don’t place in front of him as an option.
Is your whole point just that it would be GAI if it weren’t for those darned shackles, but it’s not AGI because we give it restrictions on sending POST requests?
Besides the detail that even Kalahari Bushmen have mobile phones now, primitive humans (or our ancestors) weren't stupid. You could take a human from 1000 years ago and after they stop flipping out about computers and modern technology you'd be able to teach them to click a button in seconds to minutes (depending on how complex you make the task).
General AI can take actions on its own (unprompted) and it can learn, basically modifying its own code. If anyone ever comes up with a real AI we'd go towards the Singularity in no time (as the only limit would be processing power and the AI could then invest time into improving the hardware it runs on).
There are no "shackles" on ChatGPT, it's literally an input output machine. A really damn good one, but nothing more than that. It can't even send a POST request. Sure, you could sit a programmer down, parse the output, then do a request whenever ChatGPT mentions certain keywords with a payload. Of course that works, but then what? You have a dumb chatbot firing random requests and if you try to feed the result of those requests back in it's going to get jumbled up with your text input you made beforehand. Every single action you want an LLM to take you'd have to manually program.
Besides the detail that even Kalahari Bushmen have mobile phones now, primitive humans (or our ancestors) weren't stupid
Oh you bastard. You actually tried to reframe my words into exactly the opposite of what I was saying.
I did not use a Kalahari Bushman as an example of a stupid person. I used a Kalahari Bushman as an example of a general intelligence as smart as you or I, who can’t press buttons or buy things on Amazon for reasons of access not capability.
I need to cool down before I read the rest of your comment. Not cool dude, trying to twist what I said into some kind of racist thing. Not cool.
This wasn't my intention at all, we are talking about capabilities here, not access.
You could give ChatGPT every resource in the world, all the processing power, every account credential (usernames, passwords), an unlimited fiber connection with 100 Gbit and zero restrictions on the language model.
It doesn't matter, it's straight up not built to do any actions or as AI. It's an input output machine, text in, text out, that's it.
It's just so damn complex at this point that the text output is really good, but there isn't more to it. Even the capability to "remember" your previous input isn't actually remembering, your next input just goes down a different pathway in the model (which has billions of parameters) to get to your new text output.