TIL: A man rejected for police job due to scoring too high on intelligence test.
TIL: A man rejected for police job due to scoring too high on intelligence test.
Sept. 8, 2000 -- A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.
The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court’s decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.
“This kind of puts an official face on discrimination in America against people of a certain class,” Jordan said today from his Waterford home. “I maintain you have no more control over your basic intelligence than your eye color or your gender or anything else.”
He said he does not plan to take any further legal action.
Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.
Most Cops Just Above Normal The average score nationally for police officers is 21 to 22, the equivalent of an IQ of 104, or just a little above average.
Jordan alleged his rejection from the police force was discrimination. He sued the city, saying his civil rights were violated because he was denied equal protection under the law.
But the U.S. District Court found that New London had “shown a rational basis for the policy.” In a ruling dated Aug. 23, the 2nd Circuit agreed. The court said the policy might be unwise but was a rational way to reduce job turnover.
Jordan has worked as a prison guard since he took the test.
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New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training
Yea sure, because they could get "bored". What you really mean is because they could start asking questions and potentially start changing the way things are typically done.
And have to be bullied out or fired to prevent that, making the police department lose their expensive investment.
There are good cops - they just end up getting bullied out or fired for trying to do the right (and legal) thing
This exactly, if you have intelligent people as police, then maybe they will realize that they are doing more harm than good and want to change things. They might actually have morals and realize that arresting somebody for a crime that has no victim is bullshit.
This was the most unrealistic part of The Wire. Somehow a few really smart guys managed to become detectives. Of course one was a dysfunctional womanizing drunk and the other was McNutty.
There are policing organizations that are still very hungry for well-educated and intelligent recruits. In the USA, the FBI and the CIA both have high barriers to entry. The NSA is easily one of the biggest employers of mathematicians in the world. The IRS, the SEC, the FDA, the FCC, the DEA - all happy to hire smart young professionals.
You're not going to get a job as a beat cop, but you're very much in the running for the DA's office as a prosecutor or the state homicide detective's unit. And don't worry, there are plenty of very intelligent people who are also very dependable when it comes to taking a kickback and keeping their mouths shut.
Yes but those places don’t hire people who have ever used cannabis even though that is most of the college educated population. So really you’re screwed either way.
These days, it's not actually a blanket ban on anyone who used cannabis. To join the FBI, you need to be cannabis-free for 1 year before applying for a job.
https://fbijobs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-04/guide_eligibility.pdf
That's a lifetime ban for me. I rely on it medically.
Sure. But you can just... lie. When asked "have you ever used drugs", say no.
Just as an FYI, whether lie detector tests are accurate or not, lying in a polygraph interview for a federal background check is a crime. Polygraph interviews can and do sometimes lead to criminal prosecution.
Corrupt systems cannot be changed from within. By their nature they select against honest agents.
Just as a quick example it's common for police to pad their overtime. Now suppose Officer Honest always turns in an accurate timesheet. Officer Honest never makes arrests for bullshit. On paper, Officer Honest is lazy and unproductive compared to their dishonest peers.