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I notice that often (not always) inflammatory comments are written by those who frequent politics related communities.
In addition to being straight up antagonistic, the comments often are about labeling and categorizing everything. Like if someone posted a meme or made a joke. It can't just simply be taken at face value. The commenter is compelled to categorize it, label it, assume there is an underlying agenda. It has to be Russian or Chinese propaganda, it's far-left or far right, its LGBTQ related, it's incel related, it's promoting some agenda somehow.
When I go to check their profile it is very common that the individual frequently comments in politics related communities.
Man, not everything on the planet needs to be politics related. There's not a deep state agenda for everything. Memes and jokes are sometimes dumb and silly and no one is trying to promote anything. There is actually a type of humor called Surreal humor or Absurdist humor which like sarcasm seems like a lot of people just don't get.
Politics really rots people's brains.
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It's important to call out the massive influx of Kremlin and CCP propaganda on social media, and it's all over the place on Lemmy.
I mean, the original creators of Lemmy are Communists. Not my opinion; they stated that much themselves. Despite their claim that their team comes from a bunch of political ideologies, lemmy.ml is very pro-Communism, and a breeding ground for pro-Russia/China and anti-Ukraine/America content.
I'm confused, they're pro-communism but Russia isn't communist and it's a stretch to call China a strictly communist, Marxist nation.
I don't know enough about the developers of Lemmy, but in a general sense I know a lot of the pro-Russia/China stances from tankies are simply because they are the biggest anti-West powers. What they do in practice doesn't matter as much as their ability to challenge Western standards.
In essence, it's like people who support certain political candidates for being "accelerationists" or "disruptors" just because they want to see the system burn, and they're narcissistic enough to think their ideology will somehow be the one on top after the collapse.
Ideologues with a very flexible ideology? So just hypocrites really.
Sounds about right.
There are some real communists there, but it's more of a facade for Kremlin and CCP propaganda.
Fwiw I'm fine with the real communists, it's a noble ideology that at the very least provides an important counterbalance for late stage capitalism. But I hate lemmy.ml and their ilk for supporting the spread of authoritarians.
Same, communism would be a great way to go about things if people weren't involved but they are and the ones that rise to power often absolutely fucking suck.
I don't see much in the way of obvious pro-CCP and pro-Putin propaganda around here though, I see way more posts calling it out. Maybe my instance has blocked the worst offenders, I don't know.
Lemmy.world is defederated from Hexbear and Lemmygrad, which are the two most cited tankie instances. Several other instances are defederated from them as well, though I don't know them all off the top of my head.
There are other instances which remain federated with them, however, and so they may see more posts from those instances as well as potentially dramatically different comment sections with Hexbear/Lemmygrad users who are otherwise invisible to those from instances that defederated from them.
Ah, makes sense. Thanks!
obvious
It's not obvious, they know subtlety is required, and the core of most propaganda is truthful.
Something to look for is content that divides the enemies of the Kremlin/CCP (often the same). Digital divide and conquer, fueled by paid shills and LLMs.
Some examples are:
- Exacerbating conflict, like supporting extreme stances about Israel's genocide, BLM, trucker convoys, EU-UK alliance (Brexit)
- General support for extremists on both/all sides
They also more directly attack political opponents. They can't constantly say "Putin is great," it's too obvious. But they attack people.
Biden is an obvious example because they want their asset Trump to win, and an interesting example because they're also focusing on Israel and BLM as wedge issues against Biden... the Kremlin really wants Trump to win so they can steal land and control people in eastern Ukraine.
It's not limited to economics. They're pro Russia and anti West. I got banned from a ml community for saying NATO is a defensive pact.
Someone should tell them it's entirely possible to be critical of Western governments without sucking authoritarian dick.
Yeah, it's like saying North Korea is a democracy because their government says it's a democracy.
If someone says Russia or China are communist, you don't need to listen to anything else they're saying. Regardless of.if they're talking about how great or how terrible either of those countries are.
Inb4 deluge
And oddly.the angriest ML based folks seem to log in overnight US time.
Yeah. I mean, they're all over social media but holy crap do they own on Lemmy...
Yeah, it's honestly a real bummer. I'd love to encourage people to use the Fediverse, but I won't even tell people I use it as it is.
Same here. It's a serious problem right now
Apply that to USA propaganda.
I do.
Ok comrade.
Zero self awareness is not a good look.
What about a sprinkling of whataboutism?