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Seems like old man Netanyahu should be the focus of your ire...
We also need to hold our politicians accountable for not acting up against Netanyahu.
Then why is no one calling out the congress responsible for it? Biden didn't pass or fund this. He isn't pushing back against it hard enough. But he's not the one that passed it. Or threatened to campaign against him when he just delayed delivery. I don't see anyone calling out mike Johnson.
Yes, I said "our politicians" so everyone responsible should be held accountable
I agree. Basically no one is doing that. But I agree.
The white house runs the state department and the white house press briefings and directs the UN delegation
Congress isn't blameless but Biden holds a disproportionate amount of responsibility.
Apparently, he signed the bills. The old man is not that innocent.
Never implied he wasn't. Only implied that the obsessive focus on him is suspicious and short-sighted if someone actually wanted it to improve things in gaza. He is a small part of the equation and the problem. Mike Johnson has already said that he will do everything it takes to continue the genocide in Gaza. That he and his House of Representatives is aiding in supplying directly.
Never implied he wasn’t. Only implied that the obsessive focus on him is suspicious and short-sighted if someone actually wanted it to improve things in gaza.
Congress did not force him to circumvent congress to sell Netanyahu weapons for genocide. Biden did that all by his lonesome, without his hands being tied in any way whatsoever. Biden's administration does not have to abuse our veto at the UN to run interference for Netanyahu. And Joe Biden did not have to deny that a genocide is even happening in Gaza.
Congress didn't force him to do any of that.
I never said he didn't. I just said you all seem more focused at being mad at him than actually stopping it.
Biden said Iran is equally responsible as Russia for Ukrainian deaths because they supply the weapons. But now that logic doesn’t apply to Biden bypassing Congress and knowingly supplying weapons knowing they are being targeted on civilians?
I wonder what bombs Netanyahu used
He is coming to speak to our Congress because he's our special boy. Invited.
Biden is still enabling it lmao
Could he stop sending them weapons if he wanted? Obviously he's fine with it, but if he weren't, can the President alone actually stop something like that?
He proactively circumvented congress to sell them weapons when he didn't have to.
Congress can bypass him if the purchase price is over $100m
Even President Sanders wouldn't have been able to stop the US government from being complicit, then. But at least he wouldn't have supported it.
Biden tried to delay the last shipment as long as he could.
the bill to force his hand hasn't gone any further than the House of Representatives. Schumer says he's not gonna let it come to the senate floor for a vote. Who is forcing Biden to sell Netanyahu weapons?
They don't have to pass a bill to do that. Biden can't block sales over a certain amount, which is why he could only delay the most recent one.
Which statute says so? What ties Biden's hands?
Legally, the U.S. can’t cut Israel off completely. Since 2008, the U.S. has had to weigh all arms sales to Israel and other countries in the region against the requirement that Israel maintains a “qualitative military edge” against all enemies, both state and non-state actors.
The Biden administration in late April decided to pause a shipment of 3,500 “dumb” — aka, unguided — munitions that officials expected Israel to use in Rafah: 1,800 of those were 2,000-pound bombs and 1,700 of those were 500-pound bombs. U.S. officials were particularly concerned about the 2,000-pound bombs and the impact the massive weapon would have in a dense urban setting.
In announcing the pause, Biden for the first time acknowledged that civilians had been killed by these weapons in Gaza.
“Civilians have been killed in Gaza as a consequence of those bombs and other ways in which they go after population centers,” Biden said on CNN, referring to 2,000-pound bomb. “I’ve made it clear to Bibi and the war cabinet: They’re not going to get our support, if in fact they go on these population centers.”
The bombs were approved by Congress in 2021. They had been licensed by the administration, manufactured, and ready to be shipped when the order came down to pause the movement.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/15/biden-israel-weapons-policy-00158210
Without American support there would be no Israel. They are a vassal state.
A vassal state that has the US by the balls, apparently, since they do whatever the fuck they want.
You are incredibly naive if you think "my red line is Rafah" is anything more than performance. There is no one being held by the balls; the American government is literally funding the genocide.
How is the performance supposed to benefit him? As soon as the "red line" is crossed and nothing happens, it makes him seem weak. Usually when being performative, you say something that has a plausible excuse when it doesn't happen - or something that can't be acted on until you're elected. This was very poorly conceived, then.
The goal might be to seem weak. His campaign strategists are probably telling him that being weak will net him more democratic voters than not laying down a fake red line and seeming evil.
Without American support there would be no Israel.
Jesus Christ.
If Biden is so innoscent, don't sign the supporting bills then, that's a lot of money.
But how will that elect trump tho?