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well it seems you‘ll all be voting for it
Welcome to democracy - where the ignorance and malice of the politically uneducated majority force the politically educated minority to make shitty and immoral choices.
It's better than the alternative, of course - the ignorance and malice of a politically uneducated minority forcing everyone else to support one shitty and immoral choice.
This isn't democracy. If ending genocide was actually a choice on the ballot instead of two ghouls who both support genocide, I bet most would vote to end genocide. What we actually have is a representative system where we're told that we vote in politicians who represent us, but in reality they represent the plutocracy and the plutocracy wants genocide.
I bet most would vote to end genocide
That's curious considering all the polls to the contrary. But spreading misinformation is your primary pastime on here, so I shouldn't be surprised.
Thinking most people would be against genocide is spreading misinformation?
Considering that most Americans currently support continued aid to Israel, yes. Not that facts matter to you, considering how badly you want fascism in the US.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/majority-disapprove-israeli-action-gaza.aspx
I remember pointing out this poll to you before months ago, but you decided to ignore it because you're like a republican who loves projection. Turns out you're the one who spends their time spreading misinformation. You're also defending genocide with your misinformation while calling me a fascist. 🤪
I remember pointing out this poll to you before months ago, but you decided to ignore it because you’re like a republican who loves projection.
Funny, because I remember that exchange, and I pointed out that "Disapproves of Israel's actions" and "Supports removing aid" are two entirely different things, and supported that with a poll showing the difference between the two. But fascists like you have a very loose relationship with the truth.
You didn't look at your own poll last time and you didn't look at it this time either. Here, let me point it out again, this time with a screenshot:
Oh, would you look at that, only right-wing conservatives and republicans edge out in favor of giving aid to israel's campaign of genocide. For some reason you think we should be catering to republican fascists. Are you sure you're not the one who is the fascist? You love using projection like they do and you insist that "most Americans" support fascist policies.
It's amazing that you post the screenshot and STILL don't read it correctly. Here, let me remind you of what you originally said:
If ending genocide was actually a choice on the ballot instead of two ghouls who both support genocide, I bet most would vote to end genocide.
Thinking most people would be against genocide is spreading misinformation?
But fascists aren't well-known for their stunning memory of what they said in the past ten minutes either, so that's not a surprise.
Of course, the fact that you explicitly advocate for voting for a genocide of American minorities makes this position, in context, utterly unsurprising.
As I pointed out months ago, your poll is from february (older than my poll) and more people have been turning against israel as their campaign of genocide drags on. Even disregarding that, it's interesting that you're trying to paint a one percent difference between the favors and opposes as "majority of Americans", giving more importance to fascist opinion even though this is a difference within a margin of error and, again, this is a poll from february when israel has been losing support. You really shouldn't be lobbing accusations of others being fascist when you elevate fascist opinions like this.
If ending genocide was actually a choice on the ballot instead of two ghouls who both support genocide, I bet most would vote to end genocide.
Thinking most people would be against genocide is spreading misinformation?
No contradiction there. The former is a statement of well-documented fact and the latter is an incredulous reaction to your bizarre claim
Of course, the fact that you explicitly advocate for voting for a genocide of American minorities
The FUCK are you babbling about??
In what universe isn't disapproval of Israels actions opposition to genocide?? That's literally what they're doing that people disapprove of!
At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.
Some people still incorrectly think that Israel isn't inherently a genocidal apartheid state, so they want to support them in general, but want the genocide to stop.
At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.
Okay, let me remind you of what started this little conversation. The other guy saying
I bet most would vote to end genocide
So you wanna explain how
At most, people want to continue aid to Israel in SPITE of disapproving of the genocide.
Groks with that?
Yes. Most people want to vote for the outcomes that they prefer and most people want the genocide to end. Ergo most people would vote for an end to the genocide if given the opportunity.
In the minds of these people aiding Israel will either stop the genocide or not necessarily have an effect on it. They're wrong, but still against the genocide.
It's simple logic that REALLY shouldn't be so hard for you to understand.
so what are you saying? the majority of US voters forced the government to support the Gaza genocide?
and if not? are we already living the alternative?
Surprisingly, yes. as AIPAC said, they got a 100% ousting of all candidates who were "anti-Israel"(translated to normal speak: against slaughtering Palestinians because Israel embraced the 14 words), this is a very clear democratic mandate to support the slaughter of innocents, so the land can be used for more settlements.
That just proves how easily swayed the public is by money. Which makes sense, with money, you can drown out opposing arguments and squash the truth. It's not really a democracy as long as the Citizens United ruling stands. It's a plutocracy.
What does it mean: they got a 100% ousting of all candidates…? I am not a native speaker. Who is they?
AIPAC is a very public Zionist lobbying group working on behalf of the most radical elements of the Israeli state. they were founded to help smooth out Israeli US relations after the Qibya massacre in 1953.
Look two words to the left.
Are you voting for time travel so you can travel back to the 1940s, become supreme leader of Israel, and change the 70 years of Israeli domestic policy that has led us to this point?
are you saying that the only choice we have is genocide?, that is sick, twisted, and wholly untrue.
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Yep. Because unlike you, all of us are actually paying attention to what’s going on and know how things work.
We’re not jaded and entitled children that think our every want and need will be addressed and throw temper tantrums and make threats when they’re not.
jaded and entitled children that think our every want and need will be addressed
Yes, how spoilt we are to not want checks notes genocide.
and so what if we watch a few animal (yes, members of the Israeli ruling coalition have called the Palestinians animals) die in Gaza? it's good for our geostrategic interests in the region.
Tf are you even talking about?
about how we're just going to sit, watch and fund a genocide? or the thing about multiple Lukid cabinet members labelling Palestinians as "human animals"? I mean, there wasn't more than those two points, so not much to get confused about....
Dude. Genocide is happening whether you vote or not. Why not save the LGBTQ+, stop Arabist from abusing America, and help protect women’s rights instead of being smug and pouting that you’re not getting everything the way you want.
The simple fact that by now it’s fucking impossible to not know rust Donald “finish the job” Trump is going to help decimate Palestine.
And the fact that YOU FUCKING KNOW THIS-
Shows exactly what you’re up to. And I’ll call what shit out every time I see it until Evertone see what you’re up to.
Don't use LGBTQ+ and women's rights as a shield for genocide. Also, what is "stop Arabist from abusing America" supposed to mean?
I’ll use whatever is factually true to illustrate what’s going to happen if Trump is elected. Especially against bots that clearly don’t give a fuck.
You're using whataboutism to change the subject from genocide. You really shouldn't accuse others of being bots when you post like one.
Ahh. So, if someone has a gun to one man’s head, we shouldn’t mention that there’s another guy behind him with a gun to…. Everyone’s head-
Because whatabotism.
While this might help MAGA shift the focus on Biden, I’m generally not in the practice of giving a shit what benefits MAGA. So whataboutsim it’ll be.
What’s the saying again? Oh. Right. Facts don’t care about your feelings. I’m guessing that includes how you feel about whataboutism.
Trump’s genocide will be disastrous. He has said he wants to help Israel to finish the job. You know this. Everyone knows this. That you still won’t budge seems to show whose side you might be on.
So… If you don’t like whataboutism being applied to a situation that could result in the all-out extermination of an entire country of people… then again, I’d love to see how you’d dig yourself out of that hole should someone with more tolerance for bullshit actually challenge your stance on this.
Oh, and lastly- what type of bot would I be if I were one? I’ve never heard of Democratic bots. Only MAGA and Russia seems to have that market cornered. And BOTH of them are here urging even to not vote against Trump because of gEnOciDe and being contrarian to anyone slightly right of far left of left.
If I want to protect LGBTQ+ in America, I need to start offing white guys, if I want to protect women in the US of A, well again white conservatives,
It's hilarious that you tell me you know what's up, point out that trump will do it as well (duh), and then come with the same talking points to justify Islamophobia and racism that the alt-right has been using for years! I mean, what the fuck is an "Arabist"?
There is an alternative, it's not supporting genocide, it's not sitting at home pretending like the slaughter is innocents is a good cause because "it protects the LBGTQ", then again the one thing Americans can do, is mock adults as children for being in university, they can paint solidarity with the oppressed as supporting all the worlds evil (like you do here), and then have the gaul to not admit that they are complicit.
At least have the decency to admit that you don't mind the ethnic cleansing, the slaughter, the genocide.
You just proposed killing people based on the color of their skin as a solution.
what, the other guy can do it by calling for us to kill "Arabist" but once the genocide isn't about some people you can't just ignore it's bad? and for the same reason, mind you.
so what exactly is the difference in these positions other than the ethnicity you are fine with geocoding?
What’s hilarious is how you continue the ruse that you actually give a shit about genocide while purposefully not doing the thing that is going to keep it from becoming much worse
No on believes you bud. So just stop.
how exactly could it get worse? we seem more than happy to have our bombs hit refugee camps.
this might shock you, but pointing out that neither the democrats not the republicans give a shit isn't some sinister plot to undermine Biden and get Trump elected, and it's not like there aren't enough reasons to go out and vote against Trump. but with regard to the genocide? they are both about the same.
whatever you say sweetheart
Stay classy, bot.