dbzer0 defederation vote (results are in, we will remain federated but the offending admins will remain banned)

db0 and Unruffled have both been banned for reactionary behavior and, in the case of the former, DM harassment.

Due to these irreconcilable differences we thought it only right to allow the community to weigh in on defederating immediately.

According to this person "tankie" is anyone that criticizes the privilege of white westerners in the imperial core who have been privileged and comfortable their entire lives off of the backs of colonized people.

Further context can be found in this thread

https://hexbear.net/post/2484423

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I always feel that we should leave the door open just in case some of their users are based, or can be convinced, just like I was convinced.
I was a Reddit lurker escaping to Lemmy and was already anticapitalist but just had a bunch of brainworms left. I didn't trust the "red fash tankies" based on all the
stuff that's everywhere. But scrolling around lemmygrad and hexbear for a while had me scratching my head and wondering what all the fuss is about. Clearly you guys are NOT some kind of weird crypto fash thing but are actually very educated with sound analysis of history and politics. So if there are more people like me who are curious, then we should leave the door open.
Of course, if it becomes untenable (like how shitjustworks went full nazi bar) then we shouldn't bother exposing our comrades to bigoted harrassment. Yes, it seems like the admin(s) are libs, but a piracy-based instance is always gonna have some anticapitalist lean, so it's less likely for dbzer0 to go full nazi bar.
- This is where I'm at on paper the piracy sub should not be having the issue of bootlickg for capitalism you'd think that would be an untenable position for the mods of the instance to have. Hopefully some users have a moment of clarity seeing their mods talking shit about "those dirty communists" on an instance about how piracy is necessary to circumvent the effects of capitalism
  
  I did, personally. The only reason I don't have a hexbear account is because I wanted access to a few defederated communities. Prior to that I had a blahaj.zone (am trans) account, but they disabled downvoting everywhere. Seeing that others didn't defederate from db0 is why I chose them. And because of the obvious correlation between piracy and anti-capitalism, which sadly hasn't held up.
  At this point, I don't know where I am supposed to make my account to avoid these issues. Hexbear produces some of the best content, but so do major defederated instances. Granted, I was disgusted a few times with what people say outside of communities like this one, such as the museum in Australia banning men from an exhibit. Damn near any feminist should be intrigued and hear out their reasoning, and then supportive of the point of the art being the exclusion of men due to historic and still pervasive exclusion of women. But instead, it was MRAs dominating the discussion with "but if the genders were reversed!" garbage and "this is gender discrimination or the highest degree!" myopic garbage.
  Lemmy needs a way to transfer accounts, yesterday. This is already my third account, after lemmy.world and blahaj.zone.
  I know the main suggestion on HexBear will be to make an account here. But are there any alternatives with good admins and minimal defederation?
  
  I think lemmygrad is the best overlap of "not liberals" and trying to play nice with other people

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