New largest prime number discovered by former Nvidia software engineer
New largest prime number discovered by former Nvidia software engineer
New prime just dropped. The Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search (GIMPS), a group of volunteers who search for prime numbers that are (2 to the...
According to GIMPS, this is the first time a prime number was not found by an ordinary PC, but rather a “‘cloud supercomputer’ spanning 17 countries” that utilized an Nvidia A100 GPU chip to make the initial diagnosis. The primary architect of this find is Luke Durant, who worked at Nvidia as a software engineer for 11 years
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And this helps humanity and mathematicians by...nothing. It's absolutely nothing.
If we can analyze larger primes, we can generate larger primes which has applications in math, particularly cryptography and other areas, not even beginning to look at number theory. Specifically being able to verify them over a cloud is useful, we can generate them quicker and worry about their safety less. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hensel's_lemma has uses in physics actually.
Oh, you mean you don't understand it, gotcha.
Yes, and Bayesian statistics are useless too, they're all about things that have already happened!
No. I understand it plenty. Quantifying shit to the Nth degree doesn't fix anything. It makes math more precise, but math that will never be used for any practical applications.
Please inform me about the ways this information and "breakthrough" will be used in a meaningful way that matters at all.
They literally just told you. Prime numbers have applicability in cryptography.
And the highest degree of that is not used. So...
It's not just about primes, it's about proving the technologies and techniques needed to verify such a number is prime, which might then be extrapolated to things unrelated to proving things prime.
For example, GIMPS (the organisation behind this find) was a great example of distributed computing long before people had multiprocessor supercomputers in their homes.
But let's not forget the hobby factor. You don't get to decide what other people do for fun. If they want to lend a portion of their computer's runtime to a distributed computing project, that's up to them.
Some people climb tall mountains, and that's not of much use to anyone either.
Right. Like I shouldn't have a say in Microsoft, Google, OpenAI and others starting dead Nuclear Reactors up to feed the power hungry data centers they run to exactly.
I'M clearly the problem here.
No, you're just an idiot, you're not a problem, you're not significant enough to ever amount to a problem, you'll be forgotten 5 minutes after you're dead.
But, at least you have your impotent rage?
Yes, my thoughts and dick no longer work. That covers all of your statements. I still have a problem with this.
They literally told you how it’s used for practical applications and you just ignored it. It makes cryptography stronger, hence your password less likely to be broken. National secrets less likely to be leaked. Your identity less likely to be stolen.
I wouldn't bother arguing with this person. They're either trolling or intentionally ignorant - either way, you will lose to their vast experience.
Have you ever heard of the Riemann hypothesis? Since 1859 it's yet to be solved. The generalization of prime numbers (i.e. a function f(n) that yields the nth prime) would impact fields such as Navigation Systems and Traffic Management, Communication Systems and Satellite Communication (i.e. your Internet connection could become more efficient and faster), Astrophysics and Cosmology, Quantum Mechanics, AI and Machine Learning, E-commerce, Finances and Algorithmic Trading, among many other fields. (Yeah, it seems like nothing. /s)
Does it need to? Does anything need to? I'd argue that humans toying with the novelty of 'seemingly useless' things has enriched humanity by a whole lot. Archmedes basically dicking around doing fuck all in that shed of his instead of growing crops
Yes. The amount of effort and resources used to do this shouldn't just be a fucking waste.
This is a fucking waste. Proper fucking waste.
Nobody will use this math in our lifetime. Probably not the next generation either. We're incapable of using it in any meaningful way except bragging rights.
Nobody will use this math in our lifetime.
That's a presumption. Have you ever considered that there's a non-zero chance that you're wrong?
Even if it's true, he's just admitting that he doesn't care about future generations. Fuck them kids, I guess.
It's not a presumption when there is no basis for it all. It's a fucking fact.
If there was a segment of society that said "Hey, we really want to do this thing, but we really just need the highest prime number possible! Why won't anyone find that for us?" Then I'd say OK.
You've got a guy out to beat a record and get his name on the books here. Useless.
That segment exists. That's literally why they are continually trying to find larger primes.
Again, to what use?
No idea, I'm neither a cryptographer nor mathematician. All I know is that they're used somehow. Something about multiplying two large primes to get a big number. Apparently it's a challenge to factor that number to derive the original primes, and that challenge is what makes breaking a cryptographic algorithm difficult.
Any cryptography you're likely to encounter uses fixed size primes over a residue ring for performance reasons. These superlarge primes aren't relevant for practical cryptography, they're just fun.
Well allow me to retort:
There isn't a CPU on this planet that will digest this number in any meaningful way out to this decimal. Not as a whole at least.
That's why this was clearly computed on a GPU. They're good at that.
We also have news of the first stages of prime numbers being cracked on Quantum Computers with amazing efficiency. So whatever this number is will be useless soon.
If smart people thought like this, we won't have cryptography.
All knowledge is good knowledge
Finally! Someone who understands! If it's not something we can understand, it's not really math.